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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 21 September 14 08:26 BST (UK) »
Duplicate threads are not a good idea. Here's a link to the new one you've just started-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=699877.new#new
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 21 September 14 09:25 BST (UK) »
Not sure which one to post on now  ???

My transcription from the image available in the Powys Baptisms Record Set on FindMyPast


26 July 1753 Henry Son of Henry & Jane Owens butcher


EDIT: Forget to say that FindMyPast say this is at Welshpool
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 21 September 14 10:28 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage from the Powys / Montgomeryshire Marriages set (no image)

2 Apr 1741 Henry Owens / Jane Gardiner by Licence

(Welshpool again)

Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 21 September 14 10:44 BST (UK) »
There are 94 baptism entries in Welshpool for Owen / Owens in the Powys Baptism record sets between 1741 & 1761

Can't go through them all right now but the 1st entry for Henry & Jane is

22 Dec 1741 Anne y Dau of Henry & Jane Owens butcher Pool

Not sure what the 'y' represents: every entry has it, some with a suffix



Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE


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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 21 September 14 11:02 BST (UK) »
Looking for baptisms for Jane + variants, Gardiner + variants in Welshpool between 1705 & 1725, there's an entry

November 1724

Jana fil Humph. Gardner do Llanchidwl & Anna Ux Bap 18


Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 September 14 11:07 BST (UK) »
Blank results for Henry + variants, Owen + variants in Welshpool between 1685 and 1725

Of the records available on FindMyPast

There are

5 results in Powys as a whole
21 in Wales
41 in Britain (Some of which look instantly discountable)
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #24 on: Monday 22 September 14 04:27 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the confusion with posting will post here from now on.

Stevie Steve,
Thanks for the look ups so far. I do think Henry 1753 son of Henry and Jane could well be my Henry. (Very interesting )I thought his father may have been John but not with any certainty and fellow historians were looking for a Jane Owen who they believed was related to Henry 1753-1824 and getting the links right. The family were to my knowledge were always in or around the Welshpool area. Also they seemed to be butchers as well, Henry's son John was a butcher. !!

Could any one tell me what church bank house is or was ?

Thanks Ho wen


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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #25 on: Monday 22 September 14 20:38 BST (UK) »
Great work by Stevie Steve.

Church Bank House.  Page 182

http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1238716/llgc-id:1240706/llgc-id:1240971/getText

in Dol y Cleifion Ucha a ad Issa; all Dol Troei y Wrack
certain parcels in Maes Pen y Groes Issa and Ucha, and Maes
y Dervin (alias Maes Brynion); the Middle and Upper
Bryn y Buckley, then late in the holding of Edw. Newell;"
meadow grounds called Vaughan's meadow, the Threepenny
Task, etc., etc.].
APPENDIX B."
In connection with the old houses it is interesting to be
able to illustrate the site of an old Toll House in Welshpool.
When the Powys-land Museum site was purchased, Mr.
Maurice Lloyd Jones of Welshpool made a declaration in
which he stated that- For 35 years, namely from 1834 or
thereabouts to 1869 I am well acquainted with
the House & Garden on Church Bank & at the corner of
Shrewsbury Road & the Red Lane in Welshpool afsd now
in the occupation of Mr. Thomas Vaughan the tenant thereof
I remember a Toll House formerly stood on the
site of the present House and that shortly after
I went to live at Church Bank House as afsd the sd David
Pugh pulled down the said Toll House & on the site of it
erected the present house now occupied by T. Vaughan."
The old Toll House is plainly seen in the illustration
[XIV.] of the Cock Inn and St. Mary's Church, opposite page
167, but the toll gate itself does not appear to have been
standing when the picture was painted circa 1795.
APPENDIX C."
1799, Mar. I.-Opening of the Bear Inn, Welshpool. Dinner
President: Richard Rocke, Esq. A pack of hounds
will attend."
1801, June 1. — John Keate, of the Royal Oak Inn, Welshpool,
announces that he can offer to his patrons well aired
beds, wines of the best vintage, liqueurs genuine as
imported, with the greatest civility and attention,"
N.B. Neat chaises, able horses, sober & careful
drivers."
R. Evans of the Bear Inn, Welshpool, in the same
paper, states that he has laid in a stock of good wines
which he hopes cannot fail pleasing his customers."
N.B. Well aired beds may be relied upon."
1821, Mar. 31.-The intended retirement of Mrs. Colley
from the Oak Inn, Pool was made the matter of a
public dinner.




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Re: Henry Owen of welshpool help
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 06:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys you have really given me some great stuff. Now I think I will do a whole lot of research on Mont collections and see what I can learn there. I really appreciate the time you have spent.
Howen