Marriage between Bernard Davey and Agnes McMullen

[taramcdsmall]

This might be of some use with regards to Daveys in County Down.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/Davy.htm

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

McMullen & Variants Here !

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Mc/McMullenAJ.htm

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

A Hugh McMullen of Loughinisland organised a meeting of 10 community leaders for Thomas Russell's uprising in 1803

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Russell_%28rebel%29

It would be nice to prove a link 

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

I wonder might these Davey's be related ?

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NIR-DOWN/2007-02/1171753658

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Some interesting bits here on people whom have researched in Loughinisland.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NIR-DOWN/2009-03/1237084377

Tara

[Purple Badger]

Hi  All,

Thank you for helping me with this. I really appreciate it particularly as  I am totally baffled   

I am pretty certain the wife's maiden name is McMullen/McMullan as I have located her on a census return with her brother John McMullen b1835 Ireland, living with her and her family. I have also found some baptism records for the children born in Scotland and England with the maiden name of McMullen on it.

I have had a look on Rootsireland and I can only find one wedding between a Bernard Davy/Davey/Davie and any mcmullen/mcmullan and that is the wedding that myluck very kindly posted. The date fits relatively well but the M for the Wife's surname is stumping me. I have seen her recorded as Agnes and Nancy but nothing with an M. Have you actually seen the record or could this be a transcription error?

Anne and Agnes can interchangeable and I do have a Patrick and an Elizabeth as their children but the dates aren't great so not sure if the baptisms fit or not. I do know from other Scotland/England baptisms that they are Catholic.

From census records I believe their children are:
John Davey c1836 Ireland
Catherine Davey c1838 Ireland
Hugh Davey c1843 Ireland
Mary Davey c1843 Ireland
Patrick Davey c1845 Ireland
Then they appear to have moved to Scotland (looks like Annan, Dumfries-hire)
Elizabeth Davey c1850 Scotland
Eleanor Davey c1855 Scotland
Barney (Bernard) Davey c1856 Scotland
William Davey c1857 Scotland
George Davey c1858 Scotland

By 1865 they appear to be in Co Durham.

Forgiven my ignorance but how does the taking of a religious name work? Could this be part of the confusion over Agnes/Nancy/Anne?/M?

Thanks 

[taramcdsmall]

A 2 year difference between a baptism date and and age given on a later census is NOTHING.

I have given you a Patrick Davey baptised 1843 to Bernard Davey and Anne Mc Mullen and you have a later census given his birth as 1845.

HA trust me, I'd be hard pushed to say this is NOT one and the same family.

Near on 200 years ago people were not as particular about birthdays as there are these days, in fact they were rarely even known let alone celebrated.

Also, if you read the articles that I sent to you re people whom have been researching in the Louginisland areas (some including the Davey surname), they have all noted how the priest was random as to what he wrote down. Sometimes mother's names were not included at all. An unusual practice but would make me certain the the marriage that MyLuck gave you is the marriage that you are looking for !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

. . .

Also Irish people were VERY traditional in their naming practices at the time.

Given that Bernard named his first son John (and the marriage MyLuck gave you said that John's father was called John) would be another step in the right direction.

Given that Bernard named his second son Hugh and Anne's father's name was Hugh on the marriage certificate would SURELY make you see that this is the correct family in Loughinisland County Down 

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Anne would have been her baptismal name.

Agnes would have been her pet name / nickname.

Tara