completely and utterly baffled!

[jackski]

This one you mean? It names him as Edward and says he was born in 1820.

[suecee]

UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927

 Can't work out a way to show you image (if allowed) but this is the Ancestry listing in the search and the image is definitely Edmund, written twice on both sides of certificate. Goldstone is also spelled correctly on certificate.


Name:  Edmund Goldston
Birth:  1830 - Bath, Somerset
Civil:  14 Jul 1851 - London
 

[jackski]

The image I posted is from ancestry too. It says he was born 1820. Not sure what is going on here at all.

[DRH123]

The image I posted is from ancestry too. It says he was born 1820. Not sure what is going on here at all.

Looks like you have two surgeon's sons from Bath with similar names and who both went to sea.

Edward son of George and Mary Goldstone bap. 1822
Edmund son of  William Bryant and Frances Goldstone bap. 1830

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e6a/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e6b/

David

There were also surgeons called Richard and Robert Goldstone baptising children in Bath around the same time. Presumably all related.

[jackski]

I wonder why I can only see Edward's masters certificate? Can't see Edmund's - yet I do have a subscription to ancestry.
I'm even more baffled then when I began!!!!

Edit: Now found Edmund. Ancestry have transcribed it as GOLDSTON without the E at the end even though the E should be there!

[suecee]

EDWARD 1821 is a mariner in Liverpool in 1851. He married Ann Thomson SEP 1851 W. Derby (Liverpool is in this district) so EDMUND is still looking good for Mr. Goulston. From 1881 Edward is living in Cullompton, Devon with Ann. He died SEP 1896 Tiverton.

The Goldstone family also had apothecaries and a minister Rev William Goldstone who also converted to Catholicism. They seem to have moved from non-conformist to Anglican and on to Catholic.

From Converts to Rome:-

Golds tone, Mrs Frances, (1795-1868), daughter of William and Lucy
Clarke ; wife of William Bryant Goldstone ; mother of the Rev. William
Golds tone, (1826-1905), M.A., Oxon, and curate of St Michael's, Wakefield,
Yorkshire. (1861)

Goldstone, Mrs Frances Elizabeth, daughter of Edwin and Eliza
Bosanquet ; wife of the Rev. William Goldstone, (1826-1905), M.A., Oxon,
and Curate of St Michael's, Wakefield, Yorkshire. (1868)

Goldstone, Rev. William, (1826-1905), of Bath Grammar School ; M.A.,
Lincoln College, Oxford ; curate of St Michael's, Wakefield, Yorkshire ;
son of William Bryant and Frances Goldstone. (1869)

[jackski]

If Irene was his wife she would have had to be the second wife then. Its a mystery where this marriage is!

[jackski]

Unfortunately for us he died before his wife Ann. So couldn't have married Irene.

[Jool]

EDWARD 1821 is a mariner in Liverpool in 1851. He married Ann Thomson SEP 1851 W. Derby (Liverpool is in this district) so EDMUND is still looking good for Mr. Goulston. From 1881 Edward is living in Cullompton, Devon with Ann. He died SEP 1896 Tiverton.

Unfortunately for us he died before his wife Ann. So couldn't have married Irene.

Hi jackski, I think you are getting a little confused  .  If you read suecee's post again in says EDWARD married Ann and he died in 1896.  EDMUND is out there somewhere waiting to be found, hopefully married to Irene.  Hope this makes things clearer.

Jool