There again, I agree entirely, but I can't find any of the children's births, nor Larry's marriage. That is why I thought there might be something in Ireland.
1. The birth date comes from Mabel's death certificate and her son. Mabel's siblings, again from her son. 2. The name of Mabel's father, Larry, and mother Sarah, from Mable's son (his grandfather & grandmother) 3. No details. 4. I made a blunder there - It is Mabel and Joseph who lived in Presteigne. Mable's son does not know where his grandparents lived, he thought possibly Ireland.
I'm now trying to find out if there are any other relations who can throw any light on the problem.