nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901

[isobelw]

Thanks Martin - certificate helps a lot. And you are completely correct Heywood that Charlotte is not necessarily Joseph's widow. Does imply that Edwin was dead by 1928.
Isobel

[hasta]

In the circumstances it would be a good idea to purchase a copy of Joseph Benjamin's will and see what exactly it says about the relationship between himself and Charlotte
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
from memory it costs 10 or 15 pounds.
Haven't really found much on Edwin but see a record of a Mrs Edwin Benjamin. Widow. sailing to New York in 1921 - same age as Charlotte. Possibly he died there ?

[brigidmac]

wow i'm so impressed with you all

MBenn you dont need to worry about your auntie Maisie .
..the adoptive Hallis family were lovely and  may have received the child maintenance/
the elderly couple had their eldest daughter living next door and she had 2 daughters of a similar age to Maisie

We,re not sure when she found out about her half brother
she sent for a copy of her full birth cert in 1952...i dont know if that was a coincidence

..I'm sure she would have loved to meet him too.She married into a big family the Joneses and from the 80's until recently (since the death of Olive a single child with a Roumanian father ).
 My mother wishes you could have come to one of those {our  the Jones /Lea Smith half siblings descendents were there}

[isobelw]

I'm afraid I don't think Edwin Hume Benjamin is your Edwin. He died in New York sometime between January and March 1912. In his will he leaves everything to his wife Helen A Benjamin. There is a marriage between an Edwin H Benjamin and Helen A Saxon recorded in Montclair, New Jersey in Oct 1899. In 1913 Helen Augusta Benjamin applied for a US passport saying she was the widow of Edwin H Benjamin. She was planning to travel round the world. I think she is the same person as the Mrs Edwin Benjamin Hasta mentioned in previous reply who left U.K. On the Aquitania in April 1921. When this lady arrived in New York on 1st May 1921 on the Aquitania she is down as Edwin H Benjamin ( female, widow) and gives place of birth as Brooklyn in 1880. The age tallies with Helen A Benjamin. Also she is heading for the San Remo Hotel, which is also mentioned in the 1913 passport application.
Isobel

[heywood]

In the circumstances it would be a good idea to purchase a copy of Joseph Benjamin's will and see what exactly it says about the relationship between himself and Charlotte
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
from memory it costs 10 or 15 pounds.

The will might not give a relationship. Probate was granted to her so it might just say CB, executor but you won't know unless you get the will.
I would also think that the marriage details might be useful as she married as Miriam.

[isobelw]

An Edwin Benjamin of the correct age died in Barnet in 1917. Might be worth checking out.
Isobel

[brigidmac]

Id be reluctant to spend £10 on a probate which may show very little
joseph was Charlottes husbands uncle
so it does imply thay there were no other Benjamins to leave the money too
was her only son "Michael Eric" not considered old enough to inherit I wonder

the marriage would be a start
 if the synagogue wedding is also registered in the british bmD lists on same date

I.m having a job keepin up Ineed to write it all down somewhere ...My mum and sisters will want to see our findings this weekend
+ mum is already asking if i've completely dropped the notion that Charlotte could have been a theatre dressmaker and a" baby -placer"

[brigidmac]

Thanks for tips Isobel ..even when its wrong it helps to eliminate
I have Ancestry so can look up the finds you made its just it takes me a long time + i have to limit my computer use .

will do some intensive work on this tomorrow before my sis arrives from Sweden on a whirlwind visit

[mbenn8168]

Well done all of you.

it is very complicated isn't it?