Smyth, John Beveridge

[Kay99]

  But no sign of any wife or children.

Kay

[GR2]

Christian/Christina Beveridge's place of birth is given variously as Largo, Newburn and Carnbee. Her year of birth, based on the censuses lies within 1823-1827. As Newburn is given in two censuses, she may be the Christian born 12-11-1823 to Alexander Beveridge and Christian Lumsden, and baptised 23-11-1823.

[MonicaL]

Meant to post this all yesterday, but Castle Garden site not up and running. It is a good way of showing individual entries on manifests often.

For John and Isabella (Methven), we had the following children:

David 1863
Thomas 1867
Elizabeth 1869

We then have him likely travelling over to the US in 1879, potentially with his brother Alexander we think: Mr J B Smith here http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=1462541

We then have a John Smyth showing on the 1880 census in Minnesota as already linked, showing as married but not with family members.

I think I have now found wife Isabella and daughter Elizabeth and a recently born Jane travelling to the US, from Glasgow on the 'Anchoria'. They arrived there on 4 May 1880 (just some weeks before the US 1880 census). This is the index link for them all (except for Robert and Thomas who I can't see on this manifest):

http://castlegarden.org/search_02.php?row=1&p_first_name=&p_last_name=smith&co_country=&province=&town=&o_occ=&m_ship=anchoria&po_port=&m_arr_date_end=1880&m_arr_date_start=1880&sort=DESC&type=p_first_name

Now for the 1880 census....

We think JB's partner on his 1879 crossing could be his brother Alexander. His brother Alexander shows back in Scotland for the Scottish 1881 census...so we wondered whether the brother Alexander could have returned to Scotland after his US stay?

Just found this US 1880 entry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MD26-JB2  Looks like Isabella, children Thomas (how did he get there?!), Elizabeth and Jane are staying with Alexander SMYTH, which we like too  The Edgertons are boarders and Heggie is domestic servant. The Alexander on this entry shows as single.

Monica

[MonicaL]

For background, this is the entry that Kay mentioned earlier for Alexander on the Scottish 1881 census:

Alexander Smith 25 Carpenter Master Employing On Boy b. Carnbee, Fife
Agnes Crosbie 25 b. Dumfries, Maxwelltown
Bella P Smith 3 b. Edinburgh
Margaret Smith 1 b. Edinburgh
Janet Smith 4 Months b. Dairsie
George Smith 15 brother Carpenter's Apprentice b. Ceres, Fife

Address: Foodieash, Dairsie, Fife

Alexander, wife Agnes Crosbie and family left Scotland in 1908 for Vancouver, BC:

Alexander Smith 55 agent
Agnes Smith 55
George Smith 29 carpenter
Robert Smith 18 carpenter
Isabella Smith 33
Margaret Smith 32
Agnes Smith 24
William Johnston 37 boarder

Monica

[Kay99]

Now for the 1880 census....


Just found this US 1880 entry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MD26-JB2  Looks like Isabella, children Thomas (how did he get there?!), Elizabeth and Jane are staying with Alexander SMYTH, which we like too  The Edgertons are boarders and Heggie is domestic servant. The Alexander on this entry shows as single.

Monica

Brilliant  - With husband John away in Minnisota at the time

[MonicaL]

Hi Kay 

I think Isabel and children are still in Riverton, Fremont, Iowa for the 1885 census there. As indexed and all born in Scotland. Can't see original, just the index:

Isabel 34
Thomas 17
Elizabeth 6
Jane 6

Monica

[MonicaL]

....if we have the right family for JB, first wife Isabel alive and well (we hope in health at least  ) in 1895. Maybe this is why there is no marriage to be found for JB to Hattie...

From the Riverton, 1895 census index:

Isabell Smith 52
Lizzie Smith 23
Jennie Smith 15

They are the only Scottish born Smiths in Riverton so pretty straightforward to see them together on the index.

Monica

[Kay99]

Which could be the reason that there is no sign of a marriage for John B and Hattie

Kay

[Millmoor]

What a fascinating thread to read! Cracking research.

The Iowa state census for 1885 is on Family Search. You can see originals there. Elizabeth Smith is working with the Hatton family aged 16. The original images don't add a great deal more other than indicating if parents foreign born.

Other observation is that Isabella's birth year is rather different in the two censuses.

William