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Re: marriott
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 October 14 19:53 GMT (UK) »
1901:
Jonathan Marriott  35
Harriet Marriott  33
George Marriott  10
Beatrice Marriott  8
Ruth Marriott  7
Elsie Marriott  5
May Marriott  3
Bernard Marriott  1
RG13; Piece: 3144; Folio: 113; Page: 67

& 1881:
Joseph Marriott  44
Ann Marriott  36
Thomas Marriott  16 witness
Jonathan Marriott  14
William Marriott  11
Sarah A. Marriott  6 witness
John J. Marriott  4
Samuel Marriott  1
RG11; Piece: 3321; Folio: 35; Page: 57

The family are still in Notts. in 1911 but no Albert.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: marriott
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 30 October 14 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks jim big help :)
Have you any idea of how to find out about the white feather that has been mentioned.

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 30 October 14 21:53 GMT (UK) »
IF Albert Edward Lawrence was indeed a son of Jonathan Marriott and Harriet Stapleton the only one he could possibly be was Bernard Marriott b.1899 Eastwood, Notts. - his birth was reg'd in the Sept.qtr. 1899 Basford which would fit with a birthdate of 30th June.   The other sons can be accounted for.

There does not appear to be a matching death entry for him (there is a death of another Bernard Marriott in 1977 whose birthdate is 23/9/1900).

On a 'need to know' basis I would suggest you purchase this Bernard Marriott's birth certificate to establish if his birthdate was indeed 30th June.   If it was, then this would appear to be your man.   If it wasn't then this couple don't appear to have been his parents.   His 1924 marriage states his father as Albert Edward Lawrence, coal miner and mother Harriet Stapleton both shown as deceased - did he name this same father and mother when he married for the second time?   

There are at least a couple of trees on ancestry which show Bernard Marriott but nothing more on him after 1911 census.  However, whilst Jonathan Marriott was indeed deceased (having died in 1907) his mother Harriet didn't die until 1946!

Think you definitely need to buy Bernard's birth certificate to check his birthdate - if it concurs with 30th June then I think you have him.

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« Reply #30 on: Thursday 30 October 14 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Wow thanks annette that helps a lot I will definitely be following that line and checking out his birth certificate.


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« Reply #31 on: Friday 31 October 14 11:09 GMT (UK) »
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Have you any idea of how to find out about the white feather that has been mentioned.
If he was born 1902 he wouldn't have been old enough for WW1.
If he was born 1899 he'd only just scrape in for a 1918 conscription.
In any event a white feather wouldn't be sufficient reason to change names & move to another country.
May be he was sent his call up papers & did a runner.
Has anything been found for Granville ?
OK found him.
So Bernard's looking a good bet.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 31 October 14 11:45 GMT (UK) »
They seem to be resident Eastwood, and http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk has a reference to something of interest in September 1917.
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An Eastwood young man named Bernard Marriott, described as labourer, aged 18...

I can't see more than snippets, but it seems he and another boy (aged 15) got into some minor legal trouble, and Bernard may have joined the army semi-willingly (as an alternative to other punishments).  If he was born June 1899, he was 18 at this stage - just.

Then, in 1918:
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DISHONEST SOLDIER SENT TO PRISON AT NOTTINGHAM. young soldier named Bernard Marriott...

If these are both him, then perhaps he did join the army - not precisely by choice - then got himself into trouble, and perhaps either was dishonourably discharged or went AWOL. The later, especially, would be a good reason to change your name - and perhaps adjust your age because a man born 1902 wouldn't get asked what he did during the war.
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« Reply #33 on: Friday 31 October 14 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Had a few credits left
Young soldier Bernard Marriott who belongs to Whitby sentenced to 14 days hard labour at Nottinghamshire hall for theft of clothing
Prisoner was handed over to the military in 1917 after being charged with larceny ,deserted .He went to Strelley and told Mr Appleyard  a farmer he was on furlough and wanted work on the land .After being given work he took some clothing belonging to two other men but was apprehended before he could dispose of it
This was in the Nottingham Evening Post Wednesday 7th August 1918

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 31 October 14 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Nottingham Evening Post Wednesday 12Th September 1917
An Eastwood Young man named Bernard Marriott described as a labourer aged 18 and a lad ( won't mention name ) age 15 also of Eastwood was charged at the shire hall Nottingham today with stealing 5 loaves of bread . From the bakehouse of Samuel Smedley on September 10Th .
The defendants got over the wall into the bakehouse and took the loves which they hid in a pig stye near by .The following day P C Taylor discovered where they had been hidden and watched the pigstye for the culprits , about 9 o'clock both lads appeared on the scene and were duly caught
Deputy Chief Constable Harrop said that as Marriott had reached the age of 18 , He had communicated with the military authorities who had sent a sergeant to take him ...This course was adopted

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« Reply #35 on: Friday 31 October 14 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all this information will hopefully put the mystery to bed.   :D