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Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« on: Thursday 06 November 14 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello.
I have come across some medals with reference to a Sir W.F. Miller.
The medals have either the young Victoria and old Victoria image. Except for one, which is a copper colour and star shaped, they are circular and silver. The star shaped one has 1914 on it.
All rather vague, but does anyone know of a soldier named Sir W.F. Miller? I imagine he would have been an officer as he was titled.
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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 November 14 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Good evening,

Have found this one, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Miller,_1st_Baronet

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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 November 14 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Good evening,

Have found this one, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Miller,_1st_Baronet

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That was quick! Thanks. Does look possible. Shame nothing about any war record though. I wonder if it was a common name?
I do know that some of his affairs were dealt with by a solicitor in the city of London. Eastcheap, I think.
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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 November 14 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Sounds more like his descendent, the 5th Baronet - Sir William Frederick Miller

http://www.mocavo.co.uk/Complete-Baronetage-1707-1800-Volume-5/470347/284

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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 November 14 23:37 GMT (UK) »
What does it say on rear of 1914 star it should have details impressed into it

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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 November 14 02:59 GMT (UK) »
What does it say on rear of 1914 star it should have details impressed into it

Ady

Following up Ady's post, could you post images of the medals (and their ribbons if you have them) - either a digital photo or a scan should work - just line them up and take an image of both sides of the medals.

Sikey68's suggestion for William Frederick Miller (5th baronet) is likely to be correct, but as he served in the Boer War I would expect an "old head" medal, - it is possible that the younger head medal belonged to someone else from an earlier war.

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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 November 14 12:29 GMT (UK) »
These are the 4 on a ribbon bar.
I've shown front and backs.
I also have some others.
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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 November 14 15:19 GMT (UK) »
From left to right:
Queen's South Africa Medal with four campaign clasps
1914 Star (issued to soldiers serving in 1914, sometimes called the Mons Star)
British War Medal (issued to people serving between 1914 and 1918)
Victory Medal (issued to people on active service abroad between 1914 and 1918)

The Great War medal trio was nicknamed Pip, Squeak and Wilfred.  I have simplified the entitlement rules but they can be found on wiki or other sites.

This collection of four medals on the bar is worth from £300 upwards (probably at least £500 depending on interest) - I envy you!

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Re: Sir W.F. Miller. British medals are service during Victorian era and WW1
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 November 14 15:43 GMT (UK) »
f1ndmyp@st has a record of:
W F Miller, Lieutenant, Imperial Yeomanry, Invalided home. Late 7th Middx. V.R.C.
The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, Rhodesia
(NOTE: The 7th (London Scottish) Middlesex Volunteer Rifle Company formed the First Volunteer Battalion of the Rifle Brigade)

The medal card index in the National Archive has a card for:
Captain F W Miller, The Middlesex Regiment (which could be your man)

The inscription on the reverse of the 1914 Star "B.R.C.S.& O.St.J.J" stands for British Red Cross Society and the Order of St John of Jerusalem.

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