Duffy of Londonderry help

[Kweiss62]

James duffy sr was married to Mary quigg on 12/5/1875. I know they hada son James born on 4/24/1879.he married my grandmother and lived in glasgow, scotland. I found him living there on the1901 census. He was 22.his wife esther was 24 and they had their first born, my uncle john 6 months. James died in 1912 and my grandmother came to nyc with her brother in law john that was born on 10/3/1887. He married her in pa and they had one child, my father . John and James were both born in londonderry and I have baptismal papers on both that took place in st Eugene's. I found Patrick and Mary's baptismal records and civil birth record. They also list James duffy and Mary quigg as the parents. Their sponsors are the same sponsors for john so I feel pretty certain they are all family. Now are there more. Where did they go? I can,t even find john till he showed up on the ship manifest as Esther's bros in law. Any ideas?

[aghadowey]

It's very confusing when you don't use proper puntuation and run everything together in one paragraph so I'm not sure if I've understood your last post correctly.

Do you mean that John came to U.S. with James' widow in 1912 and married in Pennsylvania? If that is the case then have you looked in Scottish 1901 and 1911 census to find John?

[CaroleW]

So you are saying that your grandmother was Esther Duffy born 1877 Glasgow and when she was widowed in 1912 - she married her brother in law John Duffy who was 10yrs younger than her - is that correct?

There is an outgoing passenger list entry as follows for 23.11.1920 from Liverpool to Philadelphia- all surname Duffy.  Is this the right family?

Esther 44 housewife (1876)
Elizabeth  14
Catherine 9
Esther 7
James 3

[CaroleW]

There is a Scottish 1901 entry for a John Duffy aged 14 shown as the brother of a Catherine Cogans b 1871 Ireland

[aghadowey]

8 Sept.1913 "Merion" arrived Philadelphia, Penna. from Liverpool, England-
John Duffy, 25, single, teamster, relative in U.K.- Uncle Tom Duffy Burnside Tce Coatbridge
next-
Esther Duffy, 38, wid. with children John (11), Elizabeth (7), Esther (5), Catherine (infant)- Tom Duffy as listed as cousin to all of them

[Kweiss62]

Thank you both CarolW and Aghadowery for your attention.

I will try to clarify my story.

First, let me say to CarolW that you do have the correct family. However, that was a later date. I have been told that my grandmother wanted to return to Scotland. Once there,  it took her a few months to realize  she made a mistake and wanted to return to the USA. (Grandpa was a good guy!)

My grandmother Esther Ferns was born in 1876 and was married to two brothers. The first husband was James Duffy b 4/24/1879 in Londonderry. At this time, I can only assume he and Esther were married in Glasgow, Scotland. I know James died there in 1912 but I don,t have documentation yet. They had children john, Elizabeth, Esther and Catherine. I have been told they also had an 11 year old daughter Mary that died within six months of James. Sadly enough, Esther's father John Ferns died in 1912 as well. she lost three love ones that year.

I have the ship passenger list for the Merion that left Liverpool, England on 1913. John Duffy b 10/3/1887 in Londonderry accompanied Esther Duffy and her four children. looking under a magnifying glass I could make out the words bros in law next to johns name.

John and Esther were married here in Pa, USA. My father James A Duffy b 6/10/1916 was their only child. john assumed the role of father to Esther's other 4 children.

To Aghadowery, my answer regarding Scotland's census. I could only find James, Esther and baby John in 1901 census. Scotland's 1911 census does not show on ancestry .com. Is there a site out there where I can find that census for free?

Thanks for any further help.

[Kweiss62]

Thank you. I had that passenger list already. That notation about Uncle Tom Duffy is confusing. It seems to me that Uncle Thomas Duffy had to be A brother to Johns father. (another crumb). BUT

How could Tom Duffy be a cousin to all unless Uncle Thomas lived with his son also named Thomas?

[aghadowey]

The 1911 Scottish census is only available on Scotland's People website (pay per view).

[Kweiss62]

I am back. I now know my great grandparents lived in Derry , Ireland in 1887. GG was Mary McQuigg who dies in 1889. I found my GG James Duffy at his sons's (James also)wedding in 1900 Glasgow Scotland. I am trying to find where my GG James Duffy lived after the death of his wife in Derry, Ireland in 1889. Did he marry again? When did he die? Did he move to Scotland?

Not sure how to use the griffiths valuation. He lived at Skinners Alley Derry in 1883 and last known address was 12 Rock, Derry in 1887. I've also found the address of 55 bridge Street

Can anyone say what townland and parish that may be?