Hey Steve,
Just the kind of thread I was looking for.
I'm trying to get a birth, death and potentially a marriage certificate for my Italian ancestor, who moved to the UK.
Some general information about him:
Given name(s): Giovanni
Surname: Battista
Birthdate: 19 May 1847
Birthplace: Rocca d'Arce, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy
Alternative Birthplace: Cassino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy
Father: Antonio Battista (probably, this is listed on his marriage record to second wife)
Occupation: Tailor/Ice Cream Vendor/Street Organ Proprietor
Estimated date of death: 1901 - 1910
First record in England: 1879 (birth of his first child)
I know Giovanni Battista is a common compound first name, but his brothers have the last name Battista too.
Siblings: Vincenzo Battista & Antonio Battista (Vincenzo was living with Giovanni in 1881 census)
DeathSo far, I've been focusing on his life in the UK, and I assumed he died there. Unfortunately, I and a few kind people who've done a lot of research on my behalf have not been able to find any record of his death in the UK. So, perhaps, he went back to his home country for a visit or whatever other reason and died there. Here's my thread in the UK section attempting to find his death record in the UK:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=793871.0Maybe a longshot. Hopefully, he went back to his home commune.
BirthI have two locations for birth in Italy. The first is from FamilySearch, someone transcribed a record from "Registro dello stato civile di Rocca d'Arce, FHL film 1170678, LDS Family History Library". They have written that the record mentions a Giovanni Battista born in Rocca d'Arce, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy on the 19th of May, 1847. I don't have access to the original record, so I don't know how accurate this is.
The second location of birth is Cassino, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy. The following records list Cassino as Giovanni's birthplace: 1881, 1891 and 1901 England Census. His brothers Antonio and Vincenzo also list their birthplace as Cassino in England Censuses (all 3 brothers moved to North East England).
I understand that Rocca d'Arce and Cassino are approximately 25km away from each other, not too far.
I'm not sure which one it is, as all the UK records say Cassino, but the FamilySearch record is transcribed as Rocca d'Arce.
EDIT: Just received information from River Tyne Lass about Giovanni's father, it's listed as Antoni (Antonio) Battista on his marriage record to his second wife.
Not sure if you have the marriage record for Giovanni and Anastasia but I have found this at Tyne and Wear Archives that they married on 14 February 1901 at St Cuthbert, RC in North Shields. If you don't have it already - this is another to add to your records.
'Giovanni Battista ex North Shields son of Antoni Battista & Anastasiam Whalen ex Willington Quay daughter of Timothei Finley.'.
MarriageThis record isn't as important to me as the birth or death, however I do want to be completely sure of his marriage.
I know Giovanni marries an Elizabeth Ellen Lawson in England, 1885. Yet, in the 1881 England Census, he is listed as being married to a Lizabetta Battista who is written down as from Italy. Now, I'm pretty sure this is just a mistake and this is Elizabeth Lawson, but I do want to be sure.
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How would I go about obtaining a birth and death certificate for Giovanni? Any thoughts on the above information?