Very Confusing Tale

[mookp1892]

I've tried to explain this story a lot without it sounding long winded and very confusing. So below I have copied some research I have based on my 3X Great Grandmother, Caroline between the 1861 and 1911 censuses. Two families seem to cross over and two surnames are used for marriages and births. Desperately need some help or at least another person's viewpoint of this as it is driving me crackers. Caroline and her siblings were registered at birth as Butchers but seem to use the Didlock surname as well.

You might find it easier to start from the bottom and work your way up. Hope someone can shed some light on this!

Marriages
Joshua Butcher married Maria Wright in 1851, Ludlow, Shropshire
Joshua Didlock married Ellen Johnson in 1880, Dudley, Staffordshire
Caroline Didlock married James Mooney in 1882, Dudley, Staffordshire

1861
Common, Kingswinford, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England
Joshua   Diddkick   Head   Married   Male   33   1828   Coal Miner   Shropshire, England   
Marria   Diddkick   Wife   Married   Female   27   1834   -   Shropshire, England   
Elizabeth   Diddkick   Daughter   -   Female   6   1855   -   Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England   
Caroline   Diddkick   Daughter   -   Female   2   1859   -   Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England

1871
Wallows Common, Kingswinford, Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England
Joshua   Butcher   Head   -   Male   43   1828   -   Shropshire, England   
Maria   Butcher   Wife   -   Female   38   1833   -   Shropshire, England   
Caroline   Butcher   Daughter   -   Female   12   1859   -   Staffordshire, England   
Ann M   Butcher   Daughter   -   Female   10   1861   -   Staffordshire, England   
Henry   Butcher   Son   -   Male   6   1865   -   Staffordshire, England   
Lucy   Butcher   Daughter   -   Female   3   1868   -   Staffordshire, England   
Jabez   Butcher   Son   -   Male   1   1870   -   Staffordshire, England

1881
53, Dudley Road, Kingswinford (Stafford), Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England
Joshua   Didlock   Head   Married   Male   50   1831   Labourer   Worcestershire, England   
Ellen   Didlock   Wife   Married   Female   53   1828   -   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England   
Harry   Didlock   Son   Single   Male   16   1865   Coal Miner   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England   
Lucy   Didlock   Daughter   Single   Female   13   1868   Scholar   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England   
Jabez   Didlock   Son   Single   Male   11   1870   Scholar   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England   
Charles   Johnson   Son In Law   Single   Male   21   1860   Puddler   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England
•   Joshua is with a different wife 10 years after the 1871 census.
•   Same children are listed as they were 10 years previous.
•   Maria, wife from 10 years previous is no longer listed in this household.
•   Daughter, Caroline no longer in this household.

1881
15 & 16, 15, Bilston Street, Darlaston, Walsall, Staffordshire, England
William R   Iron   Head   Married   Male   50   1831   Butcher   Curdworth, Warwickshire, England   
Maria   Iron   Wife   Married   Female   48   1833   -   Warwickshire, England   
Henry   Iron   Son   Single   Male   22   1859   Butcher   Darlaston, Staffordshire, England   
Caroline   Dedlock   Servant   Single   Female   22   1859   Genl Serv Domestic   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England
•   Maria, wife of Joshua (10 years previous) is now listed as being married to a William R. Iron.
•   Maria’s daughter, Caroline is listed in this household as Servant.

1891
Church Street, Darlaston, Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Maria   Iron   Head   Widow   Female   58   1833   Butcheress   Warwickshire, England   
Henry   Iron   Son   Single   Male   32   1859   Butcher   Darlaston, Staffordshire, England   
Ellen   Iron   Niece   Single   Female   22   1869   General Servant   Warwickshire, England   
Maria A   Wilkes   Boarder   Single   Female   34   1857   Certificated Teacher   Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

1891
Lancaster’s Row, Ince in Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James   Mooney   Head   Married   Male   32   1859   Iron Worker   Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Caroline   Mooney   Wife   Married   Female   32   1859   -   Dudley, Staffordshire, England   
Henry   Mooney   Son   -   Male   8   1883   Scholar   Dudley, Staffordshire, England   
William   Mooney   Son   -   Male   5   1886   Scholar   Dudley, Staffordshire, England   
Annie   Mooney   Daughter   -   Female   1   1890   -   Ince, Lancashire, England   

1901
8, Little Westwood, Ince in Makerfield, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James   Mooney   Head   Married   Male   46   1855   Puddler In Iron Works   -   
Caroline   Mooney   Wife   Married   Female   47   1854   -         Staffordshire, England
Henry   Mooney   Son   -   Male   18   1883   Labourer In Coalmine   Staffordshire, England
William   Mooney   Son   -   Male   14   1887   Collier In Iron Works   Staffordshire, England
Thomas   Mooney   Boarder   Single   Male   39   1862   Puddler In Iron Works   Staffordshire, England

1911
23 Anderton St Ince, Ince in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
James   Mooney   Head   Married   Male   50   1861   South Wedgbury   Laborour Iron Works   
Carolaine   Mooney   Wife   Married   Female   55   1856   Staffs Brierly Hiil   -   
Henry   Mooney   Son   Married   Male   28   1883   Staffs Brierly Hiil   Coal Miner Hewer

[venelow]

Hi Mook

What information did Joshua give about his father in both his marriages?

Venelow

[MaureeninNY]

On his marriage in 1851 he lists his father as Samuel DIDLICK (Collier).

Maureen

[crisane]

You don't give the 1841 census so I will post this.
1841 HO107/921 book 9  folio 27 page 4
Cainham, Shropshire
Samuel Didlick  30 coal miner born in county - yes
Amy Didlick  30 yes
Joshua Didlick  13 Yes
Thomas Didlick  10 yes
Samuel Didlick  2 yes

Above them is a Mary Didlick age 80 widow of George Didlick, coal miner. She is not born in county.
With her is Mary Didlick age 15, Edwin James Didlick age 15 both born in county. On the opposite page is a James Didlick and family and he is not born in county.

[crisane]

1851 census
Mary Didlick  84 pauper Burnfied herefordshire
 Samuel Didlick  45 son coal miner Cainham
 Eney (Amy) Didlick  46 dau in law Cainham
 Joshua Didlick  23 g/son Cainham
 Thomas Didlick  19 g/son Cainham
 Samuel Didlick  10 g/son Cainham
 Mary Ann Didlick  7 g/dau Cainham
 Lucy Didlick  6 g/dau Cainham
 Jane Didlick  4 g/dau Cainham

So sometime between the census in 1851 and Dec 1/4 marriage Joshua changed his surname to Butcher but is recorded as Didlick in 1861/1871 and only appears as Butcher in the 1881 census?

[Millmoor]

Hi

A possible explanation is that Joshua was illegitimate. He may have been baptised in Caynham in 1832 but surname is given as Didlake. There is a marriage of a Samuel Didlake and Eunice Ann Butcher in Caynham 10th June 1830.

The 1851 census has them in Ludlow
Mary Didlick widow b Brimfield Herefordshire 84 Pauper
Samuel son 45 coal miner
Eney d in law 46
Joshua 23
Thomas 19
Samuel 10
Mary Ann7
Lucy 6
Jane 4

There are baptisms for the youngest children showing on Family Search in Knowbury, Shropshire under the surname Didlick.

William

[crisane]

1881
15 & 16, 15, Bilston Street, Darlaston, Walsall, Staffordshire, England
William R   Iron   Head   Married   Male   50   1831   Butcher   Curdworth, Warwickshire, England   
Maria   Iron   Wife   Married   Female   48   1833   -   Warwickshire, England   
Henry   Iron   Son   Single   Male   22   1859   Butcher   Darlaston, Staffordshire, England   
Caroline   Dedlock   Servant   Single   Female   22   1859   Genl Serv Domestic   Round Oak, Staffordshire, England
•   Maria, wife of Joshua (10 years previous) is now listed as being married to a William R. Iron.
•   Maria’s daughter, Caroline is listed in this household as Servant.

Are you sure this is Maria mother of Caroline wife of Joshua Didlick/Butcher? She says she is born Warwickshire and Maria was always born Caynham. I can't see a marriage for them 1871 to 1881 but I can see a death of a Maria Butcher age 43 Dec 1/4 1874 Stourbridge registration district which includes Kingswinford where all the children except Caroline were registered.

[crisane]

Maria Ison and son Henry are on the 1891 census. She a butcheress and Henry a butcher. Maria is born Whiteacre Warwickshire and Henry born Darlaston. Henry is down as her son not her stepson which he would be if this Maria was the ex wife of Joshua Iron/Butcher.
RG12 piece 2246 folio 9 page 11 

Ah! found them on the 1871 as Ison.
So this is not your Maria Didlick/Butcher
RG10/2955/65/3
William R Ison  40 born Curdworth Warwickshire
Maria Ison  58 Whiteacre Warwickshire
Sarah Ison  15 Darlaston Staffordshire
Henry Ison  12 Darlaston Staffordshire
Caroline Evans  29 servant Cosely Staffordshire

[crisane]

This is the marriage of Caroline Didlick and James Mooney which fits with all the censuses you have for them as a married couple to 1911.
June 1/4 1882 
Caroline  Didlock   
James Mooney   
registration district Dudley  6c/110

Do you have James Mooney and Caroline's marriage certificate?