WILLIAMS, McKAY & LIVESEY Liverpool

[Gwen Waters]

I am trying to find the parents of Mary WILLIAMS who I know married in St Peter's, Liverpool to George MCKAY on 5 Sept 1834. The marriage register does not give parents names...so I thought I would look for her sister, Jane WILLIAMS who was married to Joseph LIVESEY (described as the pioneer advocate of teetotalism in England) on 30 May 1815 in St Peter's, Liverpool also. The IGI entry for this does not give parents names either.
I believe Mary was born about 1811 and Jane about 1794.
As there is a strong use of the first name Griffith in the family I thought that their father may have been a Griffith WILLIAMS, but this is just a guess.
I would appreciate any suggestions and help in trying to find out the WILLIAM's girls' parents names.
Thankyou
Gwen

[Tiania]

I am a decendent Of Jane and Joseph Livesey, If you have Janes parents name that would be great as i dont have this information,
I have alot of information regarding Jane and joseph and thier decendents, and William is an VERY well used name in our tree.
If you need any infor regarding Janes Family more then happy to share 
Cheers
Tia H

[Gwen Waters]

HI Tia
I have not got much further in finding out Jane Livesey (nee Williams) parents names since 2005 when I posted this message, but have a few more leads including:
1. According to Joseph Livesey's autobiography, it seems that Jane was the daughter of a Welsh master rigger living in Liverpool (England). who had married twice. Jane being the daughter of his first marriage. {The stepmother and Jane were not compatible with each other and Jane moved out.)   Before marriage Jane was lodged with a family called Jackson who were "Scotch "Baptists worshiping at Cold House Chapel,  Shude  Hill,  Manchester. Mr. Jackson had an earthenware  warehouse and  china shop in Swan Street  Manchester."

Jane was a 'Scotch Baptist', like Joseph and hailed from Liverpool where they were married at St Peter's church. Jane was a weaver by trade.  Her surname makes it likely her family came originally from North Wales.
 They seem to have met in Manchester when he was preaching at the local Baptist church.   It is probable that Jane, like Joseph, had been brought up an Anglican, but moved awayfrom the established church.

 The Liverpool Poll Book of 1832  lists a Griffith Williams, who may be Mary's father as the name Griffith was passed onto and down through her children.
"WILLIAMS,GRIFFITH,SHIPWRIGHT,EDMUND STREET,LIVERPOOL,S & D,BGS/FMN"

I believe that Jane and Mary (my great great grandmother) had a sister called, Elizabeth who married John Holland in Liverpool in 1840. Her father is listed as Griffith Williams.

I also have information that indicates that Jane was born in Wales in 1795 and that Mary and Elizabeth were born in Lancashire. There was a christening on 4 Feb 1810 of Mary Williams born to a Griffith and Mary Williams at the Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire,  as recorded on the IGI. And Elizabeth's birth was possibly around this time too.
The theory of the father having two wives would certainly fit with Jane being so much older than the other two.
However all of this is still research and certainly not proven at all so I am open to any suggestions.
I am very interested is sharing research as we are obvioulsy related - both being descendants of the Williams sisters, Jane and Mary.
Cheers
Gwen
I can be contacted personally at
dgwaters@ozemail.com.au