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CWGC grave but no death registration
« on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:05 GMT (UK) »

I'm puzzled.  I've found a CWGC entry and a photo of his headstone in a Kent cemetery but am unable to find his death registration. Searched FreeBMD and other sites.

William James Murrell (b 1887) died 15 October 1916 and is buried in Frittenden, Kent.

Any ideas as to where I could find a death certificate for him?


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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Do you know where he died?
That is where the registration will be, even if his body was then brought back to Frittenden to his Mothers, for burial
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:22 GMT (UK) »

No idea where he died, that's the problem.  I assumed it was in England as he is buried in Kent.  :-\
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:26 GMT (UK) »
This looks like a hospital "batch" of deaths from Lambeth on FreeBMD, age is wrong but ....... in wartime?

Dryden    John R    36    Lambeth    1d   282   
Hobday    Alfred    21    Lambeth    1d   282    
Horn    William G    20    Lambeth    1d   282    
Murrell    William    24    Lambeth    1d   282   
Old    Harvey    26    Lambeth    1d   282
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman


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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:33 GMT (UK) »

Thanks.........I suppose the age could have been misread from Army records.


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I forgot this bit!  ::)

Deaths Dec 1916   so the correct quarter
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:39 GMT (UK) »

Thanks.........I suppose the age could have been misread from Army records.


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Just thinking he would have been 29 and a 9 and 4 look very similar in certain handwriting so it is possible
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:44 GMT (UK) »

Still unsure.....his headstone shows initials as WJ  and the Army are usually good with details.


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: CWGC grave but no death registration
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 December 14 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: nanny jan link=topic=707486.msg5505908#msg5505908 date=1418319849

 Army are usually good with details.


Nanny Jan
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Sorry Nanny Jan, not necessarily true, I have Army records riddled with errors as recent as 1986, including vital information like blood group. Also some of my own details are incorrect. Nothing should be taken at face value😱

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.