Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia

[majm]

Do you have a copy of the 1939 marriage registration, and if so, what is the information recorded on that official record regarding the groom and his parentage?   

If you do not have a copy of that 1939 marriage registration, may I please enquire as to how you have validated your 'known' research.

I notice that Leo was on the 1931 electoral roll under the surname PATTERSON, so if he became known by the surname of HALTON, it is a name he has assumed AFTER he reached his majority, thus NOT during his minority, so not during any fostering of him as a child arrangements.   

Cheers,  JM

Apologies to Sue for duplicating the mention of the 1931 ER as Patterson. 

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Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia
Buried at FernTree Cemetery Victoria Australia
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Fostered by Charles and Edith Halton of Tas

[sparrett]

 

And frankly starting to wonder if its worth staying here.

That is your choice to make, of course, Overton, and no-one will think the worse of you if you should you choose not to persevere because you are not are not getting what you hoped for.

There will be no hard feelings, and our best wishes would always go with you for future successful researching.

All that has been offered here has been in the way of help, support and experienced guidance.

Sue

[Overton72]

It is in my opinion that I have been as nice and informative as one can be I Have not posted unpleasant commentaries quite the contrary, my not wanting further assistance has nothing to do with a lack of perseverance or unpleasantness on my part, it is the way that I have been made to feel based upon some of the comments that were directed at me. It is in saying that, if I am going to be made to feel this way then how do you feel others are going to feel also I'm being honest here..I don't feel that I'm in the wrong here when I have been  the one that has been constantly criticised in way when you don't even know me, if you don't like any comments that I have made here then I can only say that if i hadn't of been upset by some of your remarks I would not have anything to say.

You mock me by saying you get it when I tell you what I know etc you call me rude and impatient which I'm not they've been dead for years there not going anywhere in a hurry, or because I say I've got that, or I don't understand something, or this if what family has said etc...I'm not a idiot but that's how you've made me feel is this the way you treat newcomers.. I have felt some of your comments have been somewhat a little abrupt and maybe you didn't mean for that but that's the way things have come across to me so I think I'm the one here that's owed the apology I may not be s expert but I'm not a Complete  novice but more so I'm not stupid either so now you know how you have made me feel very very uncomfortable so if people would like me to stay let alone recommend this service to others than I think perhaps some here need to think about how they come across to people.

H.  Overton72.

[majm]

Hi there,

One of the hassles with online forums is that we don't get to see or hear each other, and we only get to read each other's comments.   So, sometimes we mis-understand each other's comments, replies, and miss the flow of the conversations, particularly when there's several of us trying to help the person with the quest. 

Perhaps I am old fashioned in my understanding of family history, but to me, the official records give the historical facts, and the family's oral history reveals how those historical facts support that oral history, rather than vice versa.   To me, oral history has it's place within family history, but the official records are the essential backbone to finding the limbs to then find the sources to support/confirm or leave in the 'pending' file or eliminate the 'factoids/oral history'.

As I am very NSW centric, and most of this particular extended family under discussion at present, was Victorian, I will consider not posting further on this thread.

I am not aware of anyone mocking our OP, but it saddens me that our OP seems to have formed that view.    Perhaps each generation has a different way of seeking to validate information, and also of communicating across the generations.  I am one of the Baby Boomer generation, and my interest in family history is a lifelong interest, back decades before there were computerised BDM certificates, and then later, the internet, and then later, commercial websites seemingly claiming to be the source of all family history records (and even apparently claiming that indexes were 'records'). 

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

Overton,

Throughout this thread as well as your other about the German Peterson/Patterson, I have attempted to keep you on track with sifting between family stories and what the records show.

My feeling is you have been inclined to respond in a way which does not reflect  the taking on board of new facts.

We have all gladly given you our time and used our extensive resources and experience to assist you. Your family is indeed a challenging one. Between us all, we have revealed some new facts for you to consider. That can only be good.

If you want the truth, you have to sometimes make room for new thinking.

I am sorry you are upset with the style of guidance I have offered.

Sue



 

[Overton72]

Ok look lets put this past us shall we.

Just as a mention of interest Id like to share something about myself with you guys ok.Maybe it make you understand me somewhat ok..

To some my ways, thoughts etc seem
Old fashioned JM - me I'm not so sure...but I was born in Sydney and  raised in  Bourke in far north western nsw bush country my parents were older parents who were in there forties when they adopted my brother and I in the seventies. So well into their fifties as we grew into our teen years, I have always had nothing but older adults and people around me so I am said for my almost 43years quite wise as a result.

Up until 6 years ago I lived in Sydney.

I now reside in Qld Sth East.

This family/families are Victorians yes as it is my husband JM that is the Victorian born and bred and the German side comes in on his mums side as her mum was a Patterson.And if course there's the Overton side with English,Australian of course, and usa links.One bringing gas lightning to Melbourne.

And this is his family I'm doing. My side are English, French, Irish,Scottish (convicts, lords and ladies and everything in between lol).

If I misunderstood people then maybe I too was misunderstood because not once did I think I had given the impression that I wasn't taking anything onboard including that family lore isn't Gospel and yes things should be backed up with evidence if only you had heard all the goss we found wasn't true..I'm quite aware of that and have always kept an open mind of such things and I was reading everything,looking at links etc taking on board what you guys were saying ok I think because I was stating what is been told which in a lot of the time is all I've had as this family has been so dn secretive and non talkative it's all I've had/have.

So yes I do understand you cannot just go on family stuff just because I mightve mentioned something more than once didn't mean I didn't believe or wasn't accepting or open to what you guys n gals were saying I don't really understand where or how you thought that but anyway water under the bridge.
 Let's just forget it shall we obviously Weve misunderstood each other.

Overton72.(female)