Fellman girls

[*Sandra*]

Here is Bessie Fellman Ness, husband, children and father - Samuel Fellman in 1925

Altamont, Franklin 1925

Eli Ness  39 Clerk.
Bessie Ness  36
Pearl Ness  12
Augusta Ness  09
Jeanette Ness  07
Louis Ness  05
Samuel Fellman  72 Father. Born Russia. Retired.

1920 West Harris Street Savannah, Chatham, Georgia

Elis Ness  42 Born Russia.
Bessie Ness  40 Born Russia.
Pearl Ness  6
Augusta Ness  3 years and 5 months.
Jennie Ness  2 years 1 month


Sandra

Expanding on this family.

Tupper Lake Press 24 March 2004 - Janet Ness Kramer born 30 November 1917 Savannah G eorgia died 22 March 2004 at Mt Sinai Hospital New York. Daughter of Eli and Bessie Fellman Ness.
Husband was Leonard Kramer who died in 2001. Janet was predeceased by sister Pearl Ness.

Obituary:-

http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn84031109/2004-03-24/ed-1/seq-12/

Leonard S Kramer - 21 February 1917 - 10 June 2001
Last residence :- 10023 New York, New York, New York. SSN Issued New York.

FIND A GRAVE

Leonard S Kramer - Burial: Riverside Cemetery  Saddle Brook Bergen County New Jersey.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=70367274&ref=acom

Janet Kramer :- http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=kramer&GSiman=1&GSsr=41&GScid=100185&GRid=70373486&

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[*Sandra*]

Daughter of Eli and Bessie - Sister of Janet Ness Kramer -  Augusta Tancredi born 11 June 1916 died 17 August 2007  Warminster, Bucks, Pennsylvania.

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[*Sandra*]

Obituary for Charles J Chapman (husband of Janet L Clifford - daughter of Jack and Estelle)  born 30 December 1921 and died 24 August 1998

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CHAPMAN/1998-08/0904098938

FIND A GRAVE

Burial  :- Gale, St. Lawrence County, New York.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=chapman&GSiman=1&GScid=2219738&GRid=41726880&

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[brigidmac]

thanks  Sandra i thought these were just possible marriages but there are several confirming features now linking May+ Celia to Estelle
Sarah/celia's daughter is called Edith ..this was her mother's name Geiss-Ada  ( transcribed nee Edith Landsman on eldest daughter Rebecca'. scottish death cert)

I raised a topic ;"are they siblings ?" on a different board so will summarise  all my findings on there .

[brigidmac]

the married names for the girls so far look correct  and we can add Estelle  married Abraham (jack) Clifford
there are links between them ....
Estelle Fellman 21 is staying  with sister May Ginsberg aged 38in 1920  NY census

Edith Levine  daughter of Celie (named after her grandmother Edith Fellman ?) is staying with Estelle L Clifford  1930 tupperlake franklin NY

[*Sandra*]

Yes they all look definite. Lots of matches.

Sandra

[brigidmac]

people do have the same names + birthdates tho so I want to have some cross refs before I chase up on the descendents ;
I classify  May Ginsberg , Bessie Ness  (does the 1925 census say that Eli + bessie were born in US only samuel F born russia )??+ Estelle Clifford  + Celia Devine are
David marrying Sadie Fellman is a probable but there are several David fellman's
Ida gossman is only a possible
is she Gertrude ?
What happened to Tilly ?
And where was Barnet Fellman before GB and in USA ?

[*Sandra*]

Haven't a clue who Ida Gossman might be ?  Where does that info pop up from ?

Sandra

[brigidmac]

from a  1940 census with David fellman staying with sister Ida + nephew jack