Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial

[sft456]

Hello

The Australian branch of the Haines family lived in Ballarat from @1865 to the present day. Can you assist me if any are buried in the Cemetery and if there are details?

Here are some names:

George Haines (possibly bur at Caringham)
Rebecca Ellen
Susannah
Frederick George
Alice
Harry
Mary Ann
Edwin Walter
Christopher Hurst
William Christopher
Mark Raymond

Ellen and John Edward Williamson
Lucy Gough and Samuel Edward Morgan
Kate Elizabeth and Philip Ofas

I think there must be many others, unless they are bur at Wonthaggi or thereabouts

I'm not very knowledgeable about Australia, so apologies for any confusion

Thanks Jane (England)

[Billyblue]

Looking on Ryerson Index ( www.ryersonindex.org ) for HAINES in Victoria 1865-1965, gives only 5 notices covering 3 people.
 (I didn't try the alternative spelling of HAYNES)

JUst under the Green Search Ryerson button is now a brown button for AustCemIndex.
Click on that and put Ballaratt in the cemetery slot with no other names and you'll see that there are quite a few cemeteries at Ballaratt.  I tried the first one, and Ballarat Old, no luck.

I think this index is only of monumental inscriptions so if they don't have a tombstone then it won't be on that.

If you go to http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au/php/results.php  you'll find a few HAINES listed.
Or you might have to go to http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au  and fill in the slots yourself to get to that page.
Dawn M

[cando]

It should be Carngham not Carningham.   If George HAINES is buried in that cemetery he does not have a headstone.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/pyrenees/carnghamdata.htm

Have a search here for Ballarat Old and New Cemeteries and Crematorium.
http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au/php/search.php

I have found the following on my resource. 

Ballarat New Cemetery
HAINES Alice  2 hours   15 Oct 1887  Armstrong Street, Ballarat  New Cemetery Church of England C 4.2

HAINES Edwin 47 years  22 Nov 1895  Doveton Street, Ballarat  Slaughterman  Church of England C 4.2

HAINES George  73 years  15 Jun 1905   Burbank Street, Ballarat Old Age Pensioner  Church of England 9.25

HAINES Rebecca Ellen  54 years 15 Jan 1885  Wills Street, Ballarat  Independent A 6.17

Ballarat Old Cemetery
HAINES Harry  4 months   20 Dec 1861  Specimen Hill, Ballarat   Location Unknown

There are other HAINES at Ballarat Cemeteries however little more detail eg year and place of death will enable us to help you further.

Cheers 
Cando

[sft456]

Hi

Can you help us with any of these Haines below. There are many further generations living in the Ballarat area, Wonthaggi etc upto the present day. I believe Christopher William d 10/4/2014 in Wontahggi, and there is a write up in the local press, though I'm not sure how to access this

We have been trying to trace as many of our Haines families Australian Branch as possible, since George took his wife Rebecca Ellen and 5? children from England to Australia in the 1860's - cannot find a  passenger record for their emigration...we haven't found it in the Assisted/Unassisted passenger lists on the wbe sites recommended in

George and Rebecca with children Frederick George, Ellen, Lucy Gough, Harry (Henry) and Kate Elizabeth set up home in the Ballarat area of Victoria and Rebecca had 2 further children - Edwin Walter and Christopher Hurst Haines in 1870 and 1871

There appears to be a gap of 10 years between Kate Elizabeth b Dec qtr 1859 Isle of Wight, England and Edwin b @1870 Ballarat, Australia. I think George also remarried in 1887 in Ballarat to a Susannah Carman after his first wife's death in 1885, though we cannot be sure

This is what we have of the first Generation:

George Haines (86)
Family emigrated to Ballarat, Australia during 1860s
Railway Clerk in England then Hawker/Peddler in Australia
Kirdford, Sussex (bap 6/11/1821 - 2/2/1908) Australia
(d at Warrenheih St, Buninyong, Victoria, Australia)
(bur 23/2/1908 at Caringham Cemetery)
m (1) 8/81851 at Christ Church, Bristol, Glos
Rebecca Ellen Gutteridge (54)
Exeter, Devon OR Camarthen, Wales (@1831 - 14/1/1885) Australia
(d in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia)
(bur at Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria)
(dau of Joseph & Susan Snow)
he m (2) ? 1887 in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Susannah Carman (?)
(? - ?)
(dau of ?
(children ?)

& their children who  emigrated with them:

David Haines (?)

Bristol (1851 - ?)
m?
(he may not be their child)

Rebecca Frances Haines
Exeter (1852 - 1852) Exeter

Frederick George Haines (71)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
?
Exeter (bap 22/8/1853 - 7/3/1925) ?
m 1874 Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Alice Booth (?)
(? - ?)
(dau of

Ellen Haines (?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
Portsmouth, Hants (1855 - ?)
Domestic Servant in 1874
m 30/12/1874 at Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
John Edward Williamson (48/49)
Miner then Gardener
Geelong, Australia (1845 - 9/2/1894) Lexton, Australia
(d from pneumonia)
(bur 11/2/1894 Lexton Cemetery, Victoria, Australia)
(son of George & Frances ?)
(7 children all d young)

Lucy Gough Haines (77?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
Portsea, Isle of Wight, Hants (1857 - 26/11/1934) Ipswich,
Moreton, Queensland, Australia
m 1880 Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Samuel John Morgan (?)
 Engineer
Ballarat, Victoria (1856? - 1939?) Queensland, Australia
(son of Millard & Ellen Perry?)
(5 children)
    
Lucy Haines & Samuel Morgan photographed in 1878 before m

Harry (Henry) Haines (?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
?
Portsea, Isle of Wight, Hants (1859 - ?)
m 1883 Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Mary Ann McKee/McKey/McQuie (?)
(? - ?)
(dau of ?

Kate Elizabeth Haines (?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
Portsea, Isle of Wight, Hants (1859 - ?)
m?
Philip Ofas (?)
?
(? - ?)
(son of ?
(6 children)

William Thomas Haines (?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
(? - ?)
m?
(does this child exist?)

No more is known about the above children, other than that shown. I believe George & Rebecca had 2 more children in Australia as below:

10 year gap 1859-1870

Edwin Walter Haines
Born & died in Australia
Ballarat E, Victoria (@1870 - 1870) Australia

Christopher Hurst ‘Hirsty’ Haines (70)
Born & lived in Australia
Foreman in the State Coalmine, Wonthaggi, Victoria
(opened in 1910, closed in 1968 - now a tourist attraction)
Ballarat E, Victoria (25/1/1871 - 12/2/1941?) Waggi, Inverloch, Victoria
m 1894 in Victoria, Australia
Mary Martha ‘Minnie’ Croy (65/66)
Scarsdale, Victoria, (7/6/1873 - 14/10/1939) ?
(dau of Peter & Elizabeth A Nicholson -
both b in Great Britain)

We would be grateful for any further info, if possible. There are @25 further Haines in the second Generation and more still after that. We do know that there are still members of the family living in Wonthaggi 150 years on, one of whom died in 2014. I did contact someone (not a Haines) in the town via a web site called, I thimk,Wonthaggi Genealogy Inc. However despite an initial positive response, nothing ever came of our enquiry and so no additional info

Thanks in anticipation

Jane (from England)

[cando]

Relevant information.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=666750.msg5522129#msg5522129

Cando

[cando]

George Haines (86)
Family emigrated to Ballarat, Australia during 1860s
Railway Clerk in England then Hawker/Peddler in Australia
Kirdford, Sussex (bap 6/11/1821 - 2/2/1908) Australia
(d at Warrenheih St, Buninyong, Victoria, Australia)
(bur 23/2/1908 at Caringham Cemetery)

Not according to this info...

HAINES George.
Death 24 Feb 1908   [May be date of burial]
Age 87
Cemetery Buninyong cemetery
Source Buninyong cemetery headstones and registers 23/2/1845 - 30/9/1981.
Author/compiler: Genealogical Society of Victoria, Ballarat Group.
Comment  Ref type: b [burial from register?]

Note spelling...Warrenheip and Carngham.

Interesting page
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~buninhis/cemetery.htm

His death certificate would give you the place of his burial.

HAINES George
Father George  Mother Frances Elizabeth HURST
At Bunningyong  87 years  1908  Reg#829

You can purchase an image of the certificate for AUD$21 and immediately download to your computer. 
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Excellent information on Victorian death certificates if known to the informant.
 Date and place of death;
 name and surname;
 occupation of the deceased;
 sex and age;
 cause of death,
 duration of illness,
 medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased;
 name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname,signature,  description and address of the person who gave the information;  signature of deputy  registrar, date and where registered,
 when and where buried,
 undertaker whom certified;
 name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial;
 place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian           colonies or states (stating which),
 name of spouse,
 place of marriage,
 age at marriage;
 names and ages of children of the deceased.

Cando

[cando]

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Cando

[julietallbird]

Hi Jane, I will see what I can find for the Ballarat area folk, but Wonthaggi is a long way from here so I cant help with them. It may take a little time as I am back at work on Monday and we are having extremely hot weather at the moment, but I will keep you posted.
Julie

[cando]

I have asked a moderator to move the request to the main board and hopefully merge the two requests to save duplicate searching.

Cando