Author Topic: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal  (Read 17537 times)

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 08 January 15 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the question that should be answered is "Is the problem only with Family Search having access to this information?"   

We know that this same information is available from 3 other sources - Ancestry, FindMyPast and FreeBMD - plus at least 7 other sites quoted by Dawnsh.

In other words, is only Family Search being targetted?

Another misconstrued reply.

The issue was the full addresses available on FS of living people which IS a problem.

It's an invasion of privacy 1st off  ::)

Annie.

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 08 January 15 18:18 GMT (UK) »
You know, I can't believe that the people on here who I would class as "above average intellect" cannot comprehend why some of us are against up-to-date info. from electoral rolls being available to Joe Street.

How often do you see/read of elderly people being robbed/broken into etc ??? ??? ???

Electoral rolls don't only give addresses but they also give info. such as other's in the same household or NOT (living alone & age).

A thief/burglar/rogue trader can target these vulnerable people quite easily & sometimes those elderly people are too ashamed to admit certain things that it only sometimes comes to light when it's too late........................... THINK about it  ???

That's only 1 example.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Online Erato

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,758
  • Old Powder House, 1703
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 08 January 15 18:34 GMT (UK) »
"Since 2003, two versions of the register of electors have been produced. The full version contains the names of every voter but public access to it is strictly controlled. The edited version is available for commercial sale, can be bought by anyone who asks for a copy and be used for any purpose. It is this voters roll that can searched online through companies like 192.com"

http://www.electoralregisters.org.uk/modernregisters.htm
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 08 January 15 18:59 GMT (UK) »
As you wish, you have every right to ask, but I think FS and the LDS church will simply not accede to your wishes?

 ;D ;D ;D............Have you just jumped on the bandwaggon from nowhere?

1st post on this thread by the very person who opened the read, who had their details removed:

"If anyone wishes to have their personal details removed from the FamilySearch website you may request this by contacting:

E-mail: DataPrivacyOfficer "at" ldschurch.org
 Fax: 1-801-240-1187
 Address: Data Privacy Office
 50 E. North Temple St.
 Salt Lake City, UT 84150-0018

Supply URL to each record you would like removed."
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


Offline panic

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 179
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 08 January 15 19:04 GMT (UK) »
People can be removed from the edited list if they wish, but its a bit far fetch to think a burglar is going to get an electoral roll to commit crime? They could do something similar with a telephone directory. Yet Whilst there is the option to be excluded from the edited version or to go ex-directory, its something they have to do themselves, someone can't decide that all their relations at different addresses get excluded.

Maybe there needs to be an option where people can write and ask to be opted out of alive searches, so rather than deletion it just doesn't show up whilst birth is under 100 years. Though, how do you enforce it from misuse - one person wanting anyone in their family to not be searchable for fear they can be traced through them?
Shropshire: Bailey, Cadman, Chilton, Garbett, Pritchards
Yorkshire: Chilton, Cogan, Cooper, Farrar, Hammond, Nickless/Nicholls, Silkstone
Ireland: Brannan, Cogan, O'Connor

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 08 January 15 19:05 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if, in some cases, they even can remove it?  What are they to do with a census page?  Black out the line that includes a forbidden name?  Fiddle with the index so that a search for that name comes up blank?  What if it's a common name?  Do the government agencies which supply the data even permit any alteration of the original database?

You beggar belief..................we are not talking of census records which we have established go back to at least 1940..............but of the here & now...........present within the last 10yrs!!!
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,239
  • PASSED & PAST
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 08 January 15 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Maybe there needs to be an option where people can write and ask to be opted out of alive searches

NO....................the choice should be to "Opt In"  ??? The choice at the moment is to "Opt Out"

They (Councils re Electoral Rolls) know full well that people are old, frail, don't read the small print etc. (possibly illiterate too) sadly  :(

I'm sure the people who are desperate to have all their details available to the world would soon tick the "YES" box  ;D
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline groom

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,144
  • Me aged 3. Tidied up thanks to Wiggy.
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 08 January 15 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Quote
It is this voters roll that can searched online through companies like 192.com"

Unfortunately it is only since the edited register was introduced after a High Court ruling in November 2001 that people were able to opt out. Too late for a lot of people to realise and have their name omitted from the 2002. Consequently a lot of people are on sites such as FindMyPast with full name and address, even though they have said that they do not want to be included on the edited register. Fine if you have moved since then, but a lot of people won't have.
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online Erato

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,758
  • Old Powder House, 1703
    • View Profile
Re: FamilySearch website - Personal information removal
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 08 January 15 19:18 GMT (UK) »
"You beggar belief..."

Is that so?  You are the one who introduced the subject of English censuses as an example of 'proper' practice back in post #46.

"if they had a code of practice such as the one in place regarding publishing of census records which have addresses from 100 yrs ago but CANNOT be publish for 100 yrs"
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis