Cumming's in Camghouran Loch Rannoch

[Skoosh]

Ruidhe, try Dwelly.
 Ryvoan or Ryvoanvore, a sheiling on the estate border, was let as a hill farm to James Grant to prevent encroachments from Glenmore stock.
 A soldier in Spain, Grant was probably promised it for signing up. He was shot in the knee then fired his parting shot at the French and somehow made it home to Ryvoan, no doubt there was also a Ryvoanbeg, Wee Ryvoan, at one time.
 James built the but & ben and due to family pressures built the faur-ben at the east end as was common. Filled with box beds it became a very famous bothy after the Grant's gave it up. During the war it had occasional use by the Norwegian troops of the Kompani Linge based at Glenmore but due to a fire in the 50s the but & ben was completely destroyed and what remains now is the single room of the faur-ben. Not many visitors got that far hence to be "faur-ben" with somebody means to be well in.
 The stones of the house, apart from those used to build the west gable, were carted away to build a climbing wall at Glenmore Lodge.
 Somewhat off topic but anybody who was anybody in the Scottish hills, has sat at the fire in Ryvoan. Must get my old ruckie oot and have a sniff!  

Bests,
Skoosh.

[CarolineinSydney]

How great to find this fairly recent entry regarding my ancestors !  I believe Donald & Janet to be my 5 x great grandparents through their daughter Catharine , born around 1781 . She married a Robert McDonald - marriage date not found- and died in 1861 in Pittagowan.  That gives me something to work on ! Thanks all !

[Throth]

This is all that we have, as we are concentrating on the Cumming surname.

Robert MacDonald and Catharine Cumming in Drumachuine

The OPR marriage entry for Catharine Cumming and Robert MacDonald, wright in Drumachuine has not been found, and the name of Catharine's husband comes from her death certificate. The couple seem to have married around 1812 as they had a child baptised the following year, named Robert. Unfortunately, the child seems to have died in infancy as another son Robert was baptised two years later.

8th January 1813, Logierait OPR
Robert, lawful son to Robert MacDonald, wright, and Katharine Cumming in Drumachuine was born January 8th 1813.

21st February 1815, Logierait OPR
Robert, lawful son to Robert MacDonald, wright, and Katharine Cumming in Lynruich of Drumachuine was born February 21st 1815.

Catharine was a widow by the time of the 1841 census when she and her son were living at Blairfettie in Glen Errochty. Robert MacDonald in Blairfettie married Margaret Gow in Kindrochit (of Struan), 23rd April 1843. She was the daughter of Duncan Gow, joiner, and Elizabeth Gow.

Dwelling            Name                  Age   Occupation   Birthplace
Blairfettie (2)   Robert McDonald   21y   ag. labourer   Perthshire
                      Catharine Cumming   55y                      Perthshire

The 1851 census shows that Catharine was living on her own at Drumcroy but next door to her brother, John Cumming, who was a widower with a family.

Dwelling                   Name    Occupation   Related   Status   Age   Birth-place
Drumcroy (9)   Catharine McDonald               head   widow   69y   Blair Atholl

The 1861 National Census took place on 7th April by which time Catharine was being cared for by her married son at Pitagowan.

Dwelling                   Name               Occupation        Related  Status   Age   Birth-place
Pitagowan (13)   Robert McDonald   road surfaceman      head     marr   47y   Blair Atholl
                        Margaret McDonald                                       marr   57y   Blair Atholl
                        William McDonald   scholar                  son   u/m          17y   Blair Atholl
                  Catha(r)ine McDonald   ag. labourer,former   mother   widow   82y   

Catharine McDonald, pauper and widow of Robert McDonald died at Pitagowan (Blair Atholl), aged 82 years, on 17th June 1861. Her parents were given as Donald Cumming, farmer, and Janet Stewart, both deceased. The informant was Robert McDonald her son.

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Generation 4: The Children of Robert MacDonald and Catharine Cumming in Drumachuine

Name   Born                    Married   Date                 Residence   Died
Robert   Jan 8 1813   died in infancy   .                rumachuine   d. by 1815
Robert   Feb 21 1815   Margaret Gow   Apr 23 1843   Blairfettie   h. 1888
                                                                                                         w. 17 Oct 1875
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[CarolineinSydney]

Thanks for confirming info…FYI…Robert McDonald b1815 died in 1888, Blair Atholl under the name MacDonald ..his son,  William, being the informant. Roberts parents are recorded as Robert MacDonald, saw miller and Catharine Cumming …both deceased.
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This is all that we have, as we are concentrating on the Cumming surname.

Robert MacDonald and Catharine Cumming in Drumachuine

The OPR marriage entry for Catharine Cumming and Robert MacDonald, wright in Drumachuine has not been found, and the name of Catharine's husband comes from her death certificate. The couple seem to have married around 1812 as they had a child baptised the following year, named Robert. Unfortunately, the child seems to have died in infancy as another son Robert was baptised two years later.

8th January 1813, Logierait OPR
Robert, lawful son to Robert MacDonald, wright, and Katharine Cumming in Drumachuine was born January 8th 1813.

21st February 1815, Logierait OPR
Robert, lawful son to Robert MacDonald, wright, and Katharine Cumming in Lynruich of Drumachuine was born February 21st 1815.

Catharine was a widow by the time of the 1841 census when she and her son were living at Blairfettie in Glen Errochty. Robert MacDonald in Blairfettie married Margaret Gow in Kindrochit (of Struan), 23rd April 1843. She was the daughter of Duncan Gow, joiner, and Elizabeth Gow.

Dwelling            Name                  Age   Occupation   Birthplace
Blairfettie (2)   Robert McDonald   21y   ag. labourer   Perthshire
                      Catharine Cumming   55y                      Perthshire

The 1851 census shows that Catharine was living on her own at Drumcroy but next door to her brother, John Cumming, who was a widower with a family.

Dwelling                   Name    Occupation   Related   Status   Age   Birth-place
Drumcroy (9)   Catharine McDonald               head   widow   69y   Blair Atholl

The 1861 National Census took place on 7th April by which time Catharine was being cared for by her married son at Pitagowan.

Dwelling                   Name               Occupation        Related  Status   Age   Birth-place
Pitagowan (13)   Robert McDonald   road surfaceman      head     marr   47y   Blair Atholl
                        Margaret McDonald                                       marr   57y   Blair Atholl
                        William McDonald   scholar                  son   u/m          17y   Blair Atholl
                  Catha(r)ine McDonald   ag. labourer,former   mother   widow   82y   

Catharine McDonald, pauper and widow of Robert McDonald died at Pitagowan (Blair Atholl), aged 82 years, on 17th June 1861. Her parents were given as Donald Cumming, farmer, and Janet Stewart, both deceased. The informant was Robert McDonald her son.

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Generation 4: The Children of Robert MacDonald and Catharine Cumming in Drumachuine

Name   Born                    Married   Date                 Residence   Died
Robert   Jan 8 1813   died in infancy   .                rumachuine   d. by 1815
Robert   Feb 21 1815   Margaret Gow   Apr 23 1843   Blairfettie   h. 1888
                                                                                                         w. 17 Oct 1875
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