Cumming's in Camghouran Loch Rannoch

[Kmaleski]

Thanks Throth,

I have set my index to reflect your parents for Alexander.  The parents may not fit because of naming pattern of his children.  His father may be a Duncan.  Hard to be definitive.

I emailed you my Cumming Index, so you can review/compare.

Thanks for the Kirk Session.
I think Janet Stewart is the same - they just had the first child out of wedlock.
I think this is Rientluick:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=56.74331&lon=-4.10380&layers=5&b=1

[Throth]

As far as we can tell from the limited number of Baptismal entries, the Cummings were not all that bothered about the traditional naming pattern which makes life a little more difficult when trying to trace branches.

And yes, that is what we are calling Rientsluie of Trinafour.  We have passed it many time but never wandered up to look at it.  There can only be footings for a cruck-framed house as nothing is visible from the road, as you can see if you use Google maps.  It must have been at the edge of the Trinafour land.

Throth

[Forfarian]

Strange names.

Ruidh isn't in Am Faclair Beag, Dwelly or MacAlpine, but it redirects to ruith, meaning a chase, race, run, flow, flux, speed etc. Fliuch means wet. So the implication is of a very wet place.

Having a bit of difficulty envisaging how it transliterates to Rientluick/Rientsluie I can see that it would lose the f because the noun is feminine, but not where the n and s came from.

[Skoosh]

Ruidhe, a sheiling, as in Ryvoan, ruidhe bothain. the sheiling bothy.

Skoosh.

[Throth]

It may have been a sheiling at one time, which became a permanent residence for a short period of time before everything started to contract again.  Many of the settlements north of Woodsheal started off as sheilings.  We know that as the occupants claimed that they didn't have to pay the Minister's stipend as originally they had been sheilings.

As for the spelling, well it depended on the Registrars (Session Clerks) and map-makers.

[Forfarian]

Thanks. so it's 'wet shieling' then. Attractive name. Not.

Ruidhe isn't in MacAlpine either

Still don't see how where an interpolated 'n' or 's' in the transliteration came from.

[Kmaleski]

Re: McCombich Stewarts

Janet Stewart who married Donald Cumming in 1779 was a McCombich Stewart. The marriage is recorded in Blair Atholl as Stewart and in Kenmore as Combuch.

In the late 1600s a John Colquhoun from Arrochar moved to Kenmore to work under the Lady of Lawers.  He married a Janet Murdoch at Lawers in 1703.  It is unclear if siblings relocated with him.

An alias of Colquhoun in Arrochar is McCombie, which in this case is recorded in the form of McCombich with various spelling variations. His marriage is recorded as Colquhoun, with his children/descendants as McCombich/Stewart.

John's descendant tree is quite large, with numerous descendants in the Kenmore records with a few families also appearing in Fortingall records in Glenlyon.  All later finalized their names as Stewart. They are of course distinct from the other surrounding Stewarts. 

Janet was John's granddaughter being the daughter of Duncan Stewart and Janet McVean - born at Lawernacroy, Kenmore in 1758.  She was working in Cloichrane, Kenmore at the time of her marriage. She was likely in Trinafour as a female servant when the couple had their first child Lachlan out of wedlock.

There are quite a number of Kenmore/Killin families/individuals moving to or working in Rannoch/Tummel/Foss, so it is not odd to see this kind of movement.

[Throth]

This just gets more and more complex -  the McVean families that we have come across appear as McBeath / McBeth in the Blair Atholl OPRs

Throth

[Kmaleski]

The McVean spelling form is generally specific to this Killin family:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211225110123/http://www.bobbiev.net/mcvean3.html

This is the large family present in Kenmore/Killin.  There are also McVean present at Nether Blarish/Drumcharry Fortingall (and also in Dull) - I am not sure if they relate or are of different origin.
 
Callander/Balquhidder etc use the spelling McBeth/McBeath.  McVean is same name, just a variant.  McBain also?