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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 January 15 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Just to throw another one into the mix!

1861 census
Piece 1570, Folio  54 Page     12
 has a William age 11 son of Urias (widower) all family born Wendron

same family in 1851

Piece 1912, Folio 312, Page    30

William age 1 parents Urias and Jane.
William also has older brother called Urias.

Given all the Uriases here, I think it's a strong contender

But the only way to prove it is get a copy of marriage cert of William and Elizabeth Treloar.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 16 January 15 18:32 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG has a marriage:

21 Feb 1872
Carnmenillis, Cornwall
William Penaluna, 22, bachelor, Carnmenillis, miner, s/o Urias Penaluna, miner
and
Elizabeth Treolar, 21, spinster, Carnmenillis, d/o John Treolar, miner

Jus' sayin'

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 16 January 15 18:36 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG has a marriage:

21 Feb 1872
Carnmenillis, Cornwall
William Penaluna, 22, bachelor, Carnmenillis, miner, s/o Urias Penaluna, miner
and
Elizabeth Treolar, 21, spinster, Carnmenillis, d/o John Treolar, miner

Jus' sayin'

STG

Well spotted I had not looked on there as thought it was too late (1872) to be included. So that has saved Paul £9.25  :)

(NB Urias marries two women called Jane, the first in 1841 and the second in 1861)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 16 January 15 19:00 GMT (UK) »
So Urias it is - never ignore a gut feeling!
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 16 January 15 19:08 GMT (UK) »
So Urias it is - never ignore a gut feeling!

Bad advice seeing as we were told originally that William's parents were John and Ann - only they weren't
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 16 January 15 19:11 GMT (UK) »
I mean't my gut feeling. Always look further into unusual names. Doing that on another thread at the moment
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 19 January 15 17:32 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that William was son of John and Ann as his son urias was also born in stithians.
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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 19 January 15 17:51 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that William was son of John and Ann as his son urias was also born in stithians.

Oh well it is a useful lesson don't assume anything, and if you do let people know its only an assumption. I had asked where you got the information from but you never answered, if you had we might have got to the answer sooner.

Still its all ended well and we have unravelled the family for you so that's good  :)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Mother's maiden name?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 19 January 15 17:55 GMT (UK) »
The marriage that smalltowngirl found means William's father was definitely called Urias.
There seem to be three Williams born within a few years of each other in the smae part of Cornwall. If you piece the families that people have found for you on this thread together you will probably find they're all related when you get back two or three more generations.

1851 census in Grigwartha Wendron Cornwall
Urias    Panaluna    Head       34    
Jane    Panaluna    Wife       31    
Urias    Panaluna    Son        5    
Susan    Panaluna    Daughter    3    
William    Panaluna    Son       1

all born in Wendron
From FreeBMD Marriage Q3 1841 Urias Penaluna and the only possible bride called Jane is Jane Wren. One of the other brides with same reference is Ann Wren - could be Jane's sister. Free reg has Jane as Jane Uren. Urias's father is also called Urias and Jane's father is called Martin. As they married after 1841 census, you should probably be able to find them as single people hopefully living with parents, so you would be able to find more of the family.   

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott