Jane Edmund

[trot30]

JANE Edmund/s (also as Anne)?
B: 1818 in Trawsfynydd, Merionethshire, Wales
D: 17.10.1853 in Wernbach, Trawsfynydd

Looking for Jane wife of Cadwalader Jones also born Trawsfynydd.

Children
John
Robert
Martha
Lewis
and stillborn twins. Jane died during childbirth to these.

Marriage to Cadwalader Jones 9 Nov 1838
Age: 20
St Madryn, Trawsfynydd

Looking for her parents or where she lived before she was married. I believe she married from Gwndwn, Trawsfynydd but cant seem to find her anywhere. Could someone be so kind to have a look for me please as this is annoying the bones off me now!

Thanks

[CaroleW]

Any fathers name shown on her marriage cert?

I can't see a Jane or Ann Jones husband Cad** born  Trawsfynydd on the 1851 census nor can I see a family with those children you list

[Kay99]

I can't see a marriage for a Cadwal* Jones to a Jane Edmund/s in Dec Qtr 1838 - although the FreeBMD index has a possible marriage to Jane Jones

Kay

Edit - earlier thread that appears to relate to the same family http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=600995.msg4873907#msg4873907

[dcbnwh]

The marriage on 9th November is to Jane Jones

see - http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alwyn/M/BT/Traws/1836.htm#1838

The site also has baptisms c1818

David

P.S. There are three records for Gwndwn in 1815 also 1813 and 1837

[dcbnwh]

In 1856, there is a will of John Edmund of Gwndwn who names the grandchildren, sons and daughter of Cadwalader Jones and Jane of Wern Bach.

In 1851, born Llanycil, he is at Gwndwn with a wife, Catherine, born Trawsfynydd, at Gwndwn. Presumably, these are Jane's parents.

David

[Kay99]

Good find - In 1841 John and Cath Edmund were living next door to Cad and Jane Jones and the couple's son Robert at Gwndwn, Trawsfynydd

[Gadget]

As she was a spinster at marriage, it sounds like a probable late use of the semi-patronymic by the vicar/parish clerk.

If her father was John Edmund she might well be Jane Jones/John.  Some of my Merionethshire ancestors from the Penllyn parishes were entered both by surname and by semi-patronymic at different times.

Gadget

[dcbnwh]

Something I meant to add. There is a marriage of John Edmund to Catherine Robert in Llanfair juxta Harlech in 1814. John is from Dolgelley and Catherine from Llanfair, so seem to fit the profile.

Later that year, they had a child, Edmund, and the abode was given as Henganai.

In 1851 Martha Jones seems to be on the census at the top of a page but the preceding page is missing.

Lewis was born in Wern Fach, which was probably the abode in 1851. John is with his grandparents.

The houses after the entry for Martha are the same as those after Wern Fach in 1861, so it looks as thought sveral records are missing.

David

[Gadget]

In 1851 Martha Jones seems to be on the census at the top of a page but the preceding page is missing.

Lewis was born in Wern Fach, which was probably the abode in 1851. John is with his grandparents.

The houses after the entry for Martha are the same as those after Wern Fach in 1861, so it looks as thought sveral records are missing.

David

Page is not missing on my source~

Full details in 1851 at Wern B/Fach* HO107/2512/196/1   * no mutation on the image!

Cadwal(ad)er, 39, Farmer of 19 acres
Jane, 33
Robert, 8
Martha, 4

All born Trawsfynedd

Gadget