Marrage John Mountgarret/t 1845 Templemore Ireland

[Iria]

Hi

Thankyou for the Reply .. Is the Londonderry Sentinel a Newspaper ? .. and does this mean that Either the Mountgarretts or Mooneys where Quite well off to have there marriage mentioned ?
The Only Mountgarretts that I can seem to Fit in is Warren Mountgarrett that are in Derry Ireland
Regards

Iria

[scotmum]

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Yes, the Sentinel was and indeed still is, a newspaper in Londonderry.

In the timescale, it was less common for 'ordinary' folks to have their marriage recorded. As to family wealth/standing in the community, this is perhaps one possible reason. Another could be linked to the groom's occupation as 'printer'. Although not necessarily so, there is always the possibility he worked for the newspaper. Certainly something to consider.

[aghadowey]

Yes, the Sentinel is a local newspaper. Unfortunately the groom's father wasn't mentioned (quite common in those days although the father could have been deceased or from outside the area). Business people did tend to put in notices more often and the fact that John was in the printing trade would have made this announcement a kind of advertising for his business.

[Iria]

Many Thanks For Your Replys

John and his Family Moved to Liverpool Between 1850 and 1860 not to sure of the Time Scale .. Sadly his Family including his wife Died at Young ages ,, There Daughter Mary Helen Mountgarret married into my Slater Family  still unable to find a marriage of her and Roger Slater in Liverpool or Ireland .. John Mountgarret died in 1901 in Derbyshire his Occupation was a Printer

Many thanks for all your help its most Appreciated

Regards

Iria

[scotmum]

Did you check the Louisa Mountgarrett (West Derby Volume 8b page 566) marriage in 1885 and the Ellen Mountgarrett (Liverpool Volume 8b page 193) marriage in 1888? Could the Slater marriage have been a 2nd or even 3rd one for Ellen?

[Iria]

Hi

Yes these are Mary Helen Sisters .. its Mary Helens marriage to Roger I cannot find ... Maybe they Never Married .. I have looked for a number of years but have only ever found Census details and there Deaths in 1904 and 1907 in the workhouse in Liverpool under the surname Slater

Regards

Iria

[scotmum]

You previously referred to Mary Ellen rather than Mary Helen. Is it not the case that Mary Ellen/Helen is the one and same person as Ellen?

[Iria]

Hi

Ellen and Mary Ellen/Helen are two Different people .. Ellen is with John her father on the 1881 Census Mary Ellen/Helen marries Roger Slater somewhere between 1869/1871 .. Mary on the census is either put as mary Helen or Mary Ellen .. sorry about the confusion

Regards

Iria

[scotmum]

I think you will find widowed John and his children in Overbury Street, West Derby at 1871, albeit transcribed as Garrett. John and all children except youngest, Louisa, born Ireland, and she born Lancashire.

There is no Mary, but there is an Ellen. Others are Frances, George and Elizabeth.

Transcriber has given John the middle name 'Arron', but on viewing actual Census, I believe the word is Mount, and part of surname.

John's occupation matches that known - Printer compositor.