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thomas bickley
« on: Monday 02 February 15 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with my search.
 I am looking for the parents of Thomas Bickley born about 1796 in Staffordshire(could be Worcestershire or Warwickshire ). I believe Thomas married  Hannah Parker in 1814 in Handsworth. Thomas and Hannah had a son also named Thomas born near Dudley in 1821, he married Ann Weaver in 1840 in Dudley. Thomas and Ann had a son named Elijah born 1842, Elijah's surname is listed as Beckley as are his descendants. Any information on my Bickley/Beckley ancestors from Staffordshire/Worcestershire/Warwickshire would be appreciated.

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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 February 15 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Thomas was unlikely to have been born in 1800 and married in 1814.
Might need to check your dates.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 February 15 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Good Afternoon
Could this be him?
Thomas Bickley bapt 21.5.1785 Walsall St Matthews son of William and Sarah Bickley

That would make him 29 when he married.
Siblings  John 6.7.1783-23.10.1791 ,Ann buried 29.11.1784 ,Stephen 13.5.1788,Nancy 23.1.1791,Joseph 16.6.1793,Elizabeth 29.6.1796 and Benjamin 12..51799.

Possible marriage st St Peters Wolverhampton William Bickley and Sarah Hallat 12.12.1779

Burial for Sarah at Rushall 15.12.1831 age 77 years so born 1754
Possible burial for Hannah Buckley age 48 Rushall 13.5.1832
Thomas Bickley St Matthews burial 19.9.1851 age 66 years workhouse.Walsall.
Elijah Bickley s of Thomas and Hannah age 18 11.2.1844 The Butts burial Rushall.

The baptism for William Bickley looks like 24.4.1757 Rushall to Samuel and Ann Bickley

Hope that helps
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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your help


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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 February 15 09:52 GMT (UK) »
This is tricky!

How much do you know about geography and geology in the areas around Dudley, Walsall and Rushall?  Professional experience, together with some local history, suggests this might help direct your search.

Dion
Upton, Bishops Wood, Staffordshire.  Jones, Nant-yr-Ych, Aberhafesp, Montgomeryshire.  Evans, Kinnerley, Flintshire.  Dennis, Breedon-on-the-Hill, Leicestershire.  Brown, Red Lake, Wellington, Shropshire.

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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 February 15 11:55 GMT (UK) »
BAPTISMS
St Michael, Rushall, Staffordshire
CHARLES, 15 Oct 1815
MARIA, 23 Dec 1821
THOMAS, 23 Dec 1821***
ELIJAH, 1 Aug 1824, buried 11 Feb 1844 age 18 (abode Butts0
SALLY, 11 March 1827
Parents THOMAS/HANNAH or Ann, nee Parker
Abode Rushall
Fathers Occp Miner

Unable to find Sally/Elijah in 1841

CHARLES Bickley (Father THOMAS a Miner) married Maria WATSON (Father JOHN a Miner) 15 Oct 1838, St Bartholomews, Wednesbury

Charles BICKLEY/Maria WATSON were Witnesses to MARIA Bickley's Marriage to Thomas DAVIS, 08 June 1838 same Church
Her Father THOMAS a Miner

1841 Census in Butts, Rushall, on same page we have;
Thos Davis 24, Limestone Miner
Maria Davis, 23
Eliza Davis, 2
Mary Davis, 2mths
Mary Bickley, 4
Nearby;
Tho Bickley, 20, Limestone Miner
Ann Bickley, 23
Hannah Bickley, 9mths 
Ellen Weaver, 5


I cant conclusively find Thomas Snr 1841/1851
There is this one though;

Thos BICKLEY age 50 (1791) in Dudley, Worcestershire, Occp Miner, NOT born in County
There is a Eliz Bickley age 17 in Household also.
So maybe not yours

May I ask what Census you have for Thomas Snr?

Trish :)



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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 February 15 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Worth noting.

A CHARLES/MARY Bickley were Baptising Children in Pelsall at the same time as Thomas/Hannah;
Charles 1821
Elizabeth 1823
Phillip 1826
Elijah 1828
Esther 1830
Zillah 1833
He married Mary HARRIS 27 Dec 1819 Wolverhampton
Unfortunately Mary Bickley born c 1799 is Widowed in 1851, living in Pelsall

1841 we have;
Charles Beckley    45
Mary Beckley    45
Elizah Beckley    15
Phillip Beckley    15
Elijah Beckley    13
Esther Beckley    10
Zellah Beckley    8
Enoch Beckley    2

Just worth noting as your Thomas names his 1st Son Charles
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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 February 15 13:38 GMT (UK) »
I missed this connection.  The Thomas b. 1891 was at Salop Street and this was the abode of son Thomas 1821 when he married Ann Weaver in 1840 (via FreeREG).  Too much of a coincidence to be wrong?

Dudley fits with limestone mining, too.
Upton, Bishops Wood, Staffordshire.  Jones, Nant-yr-Ych, Aberhafesp, Montgomeryshire.  Evans, Kinnerley, Flintshire.  Dennis, Breedon-on-the-Hill, Leicestershire.  Brown, Red Lake, Wellington, Shropshire.

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Re: thomas bickley
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 February 15 14:22 GMT (UK) »
And, on a modern street map there is still a Salop Street and a Shaver's End within 0.5 km, which is where William 1821 can be found in the 1851 census.
Upton, Bishops Wood, Staffordshire.  Jones, Nant-yr-Ych, Aberhafesp, Montgomeryshire.  Evans, Kinnerley, Flintshire.  Dennis, Breedon-on-the-Hill, Leicestershire.  Brown, Red Lake, Wellington, Shropshire.