Author Topic: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool  (Read 16757 times)

Offline HarrysGirl2

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 179
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 17:54 GMT (UK) »
RunKitty & Keyboard86. . . .  I can't thank you both enough!

I didn't think I had enough information to find them & I had no idea that they had moved from Canada to the US & were killed in NJ. 

It looks very likely that John's wife was Agnes McDowall, which means her sister's maiden name was the same.

I'll look for a marriage for her sister. Although, it's quite possible that her sister will have died by now.

Her two sons may be easier to find if they stayed in Toronto. It depends if they kept the name Goss or were officially adopted by their aunt & uncle & used their surname.  So I need to find their surname. 

I am so grateful for this help, thank you !   I am so excited!

HG2  XX
Freeman Freedman Friedman.
Cohen
Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.

Offline RunKitty

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,888
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 04:08 GMT (UK) »
Looks like the second Goss son - 1948 JunQ, Liverpool N.  Mother "McDowell".  There is a middle initial "B" for this son.  (Free BMD)

So, now it would be great if we could to find Agnes McDowell/McDowall Goss's married sister who raised the boys after their parents died.   

RK

Offline RunKitty

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,888
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 04:15 GMT (UK) »
Lancashire OPC has record of banns for John William Goss and Agnes Edith McDowall.  In Christ Church, Kensington, Lancashire, England.  John is a bachelor of this parish.  Agnes is a spinster of St. Anne's, Stanley

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

RK


Offline HarrysGirl2

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 179
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 12:14 GMT (UK) »
I can't believe we found what we have found so far, Thank you so much.

The marriage of John W Goss to Agnes E McDowall has to be the correct marriage in 1941.
There is one other Liverpool 1944 marriage of a John H Goss to - spouse's surname is Halewood, but I can't find a Liverpool birth for Halewood. So I doubt that would be the correct marriage, John's second initial doesn't fit.

I've looked for births of siblings & can find only 2 brothers, can't see any sisters!  So maybe it was Agnes's 'brother' & his wife who brought up their sons.  All a bit vague, because one of the articles says their 17-year old son was staying with 'friends' of the family on Eighth Street, Long Branch in Toronto, while finishing his education. Maybe 'friends' were actually 'family' on Eighth St ?

If so, we are be looking for the name McDowall  :)

The brothers I've found are; 
J**** McD***** born 1920 Liverpool
W****** McD***** born 1924 Liverpool

They could still be living so can't put full names on here, but J & W are very common first names.

HG2

Freeman Freedman Friedman.
Cohen
Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,797
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Have been following the thread in the background but did notice the other day that there was also a death in March 1924 for what could be the same W McD.
There was also a G.A McDowall born September 1913 to maiden name Thrussell. 8b 1251 - West Derby.

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline RunKitty

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,888
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

If we think Agnes's mother's maiden name is Thrussell -
1913 - George A McDowall, W. Derby
1915 - Florence, W. Derby (mmn name on Free BMD transcribed as Thrusse[il]l

RK

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,797
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 15:14 GMT (UK) »
There was a death West Derby - March 1917 - Florence McDowall - aged 1 year - 8b 908

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,797
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 15:16 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a George A McDowall - Prestwich - 8d 435 - June 1916 - aged 2 years.

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,797
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: GOSS Family Canada - Originally From Liverpool
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Where does the information come from that the boys were brought up by relatives ?

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada