Finding First Wife of Ancestor John Daley

[scotmum]

When I asked, I had thought he perhaps died in Scotland. Scottish death certificates tend to name earlier spouses.

[anne_p]

Can anyone find the  statutory death record that matches with the burial info posted by jmara?
Mary Daley ( or variant) age 19 and died in 1862.

The closest that I can find is an 1863 death  in Lanarkshire Age0

[jmara]

I didn't know that! I wish. I can't find anything from Chicago.
Speaking of that, annep5892 you mentioned I'd need the actual death cert. to confirm. Is this something I can get at Scotlands people or is there an additional document I need to request that is not available online?

When I asked, I had thought he perhaps died in Scotland. Scottish death certificates tend to name earlier spouses.

[anne_p]

jmara,
Scotlands People holds all birth/death/marriage records
You should be looking in the 1st section on the left :
 "Statutory Registers" ( records from 1855- current date)
I know Jonn sent you the Daley/Boyle marriage cert.
This is where it came from

The Catholic Registers is only a good source of "additional" information for this time period.

[jmara]

Thanks...I've checked for statutory death records for both Ann and Mary Daily (and last name variations) for the time period but came up empty. The 1861 Census of John (born in Portabello) and Ann Malcolm seems accurate on his age and place of birth and they have a marriage record so she seems the most likely first wife. Problem is, I can't find that Ann Malcolm Daily died before 1864 (his next marriage) or any death record.

On the other hand, I have a marriage between John Daily and Mary Stewart in 1859 and Mary dying in 1862, but no proof it was with my ancestor John born in Portabello and no census for 1861 with them together.
Any suggestions on how to resolve?   

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jmara,
Scotlands People holds all birth/death/marriage records
You should be looking in the 1st section on the left :
 "Statutory Registers" ( records from 1855- current date)

The Catholic Registers is only a good source of "additional" information for this time period.
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[Little Nell]

I've checked for statutory death records for both Ann and Mary Daily (and last name variations) for the time period but came up empty.

I found an Ann Daly death registered in 1862 on ScotlandsPeople

An Ann Daly died in Bathgate in 1862

I only entered Ann ('begins with' option) and Daley (surname variants option), female, between 1861 and 1864 and got 13 results. 

I have now viewed the entry - she was married to John Daly, coal miner, and her age was 21.

With ScotlandsPeople, less is often more.  I really recommend checking it out, plus the marriage in the statutory records on ScotlandsPeople.  This would confirm (or otherwise) that the John Dal(e)y is the correct one from the  parents listed.

Nell

[anne_p]

Apologies to Little Nell,
It was very late last night and I completely missed your post relating to the marriage of John Daily and Ann Malcolm.
I was too focused on the 1862 burial record that was posted.

[jmara]

Little Nell-Thank You! I don't know how I missed that on my query.
I used the broad metaphone option.
I will go back in and get the information from Scotlandpeople.
Really appreciate it--Thank You to everyone!

I only entered Ann ('begins with' option) and Daley (surname variants option), female, between 1861 and 1864 and got 13 results. 

I have now viewed the entry - she was married to John Daly, coal miner, and her age was 21.

With ScotlandsPeople, less is often more.  I really recommend checking it out, plus the marriage in the statutory records on ScotlandsPeople.  This would confirm (or otherwise) that the John Dal(e)y is the correct one from the  parents listed.

Nell
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[Forfarian]

there is this possible 1851 census entry on Ancestry.

Another specimen of rubbish transcription from Ancestry.

FreeCEN has Margaret and David born Midlothian, Edinburgh; John born Midlothian, Portubella, which they have interpreted as Portobello; James born Stirlingshire, Slamannan and Thomas born possibly West Thorn, Lanarkshire with a note that the transcribers were unsure of the parish of birth. (West Thorn rings a bell - have we had this same query before?)