John Scott 1820/1821 Gate Burton

[James2you]

Did you Groom have any thoughts on my earlier post ?

[groom]

It doesn't look as if they did have children - this is them in 1881, 3 years after Maria died - all those children must be hers. 1891, doesn't show any other children either. So if they did have children, it doesn't look as if they survived.

RG11; Piece: 3286; Folio: 5; Page: 4
 
John Charles Scott   39                         Amcott, Lincoln
Mary Ann Scott           39                         Newton, Lincoln
Albert Scott           11                         Winterton, Lincoln
Julia Scott                     9                         Winterton, Lincoln
Alice Walch           16 servant              Winteringham, Lincoln

No marriages between 1878 and 1891.

[James2you]

Groom did you manage to come across a maiden name for Mary Ann ?


John

[groom]

Sorry no. The problem will be if they never married or had children there will be no records to show a maiden name.

I'll have a look in earlier cenuses later and see if I can pick her up via her place of birth and age using just her first name. 

[James2you]

In my earlier post , I mentioned that I had a Mary Ann Bristow wed to another, moving forward to Sarah daughter of Sarah & John Scott, in Sarah`s household you mentioned there was a lodger William Bristows (I think).
Do you think it would be of benefit to check him out & see if a Mary Ann shows up.

Something at the back of my mind (probably just saw dust)

Be in touch

[groom]

That was William Bristow Scott born 1823, Spridlington. I'll check him in a minute.

Look what we both missed from that 1891 census 
RG12; Piece: 2627; Folio: 33; Page: 15  Winterton


John Charles Scott   49   Grocer                                                      Amcotts, Lincolnshire
Mary Ann Scott           49                                                          Newton, Lincolnshire
Albert Scott            21                                                         Winterton, Lincolnshire
Julia Scott                   19                                                          Winterton, Lincolnshire
Jessie Burton            19    niece                                              Winterton, Lincolnshire
Williams Rosa             83   Father-in-law                                   Thorney, Nottinghamshire

We know he wasn't John Charles's father in law from his first marriage, so he must be Mary Ann's father! I'll see if I can find him in earlier cenuses. I would suspect from her age that Mary Ann had been married before.

[groom]

I think this is William in 1861 - right age and place of birth. They are also living in Newton, which is where Mary Ann said she was born. In 1861, she would be 19, so probably a servant somewhere.

RG 9; Piece: 2411; Folio: 63; Page: 6
Newton on Trent

William Rose        53     Shepherd                      Thorney, Nottinghamshire
Elizabeth Rose        47                                         Eagle, Lincolnshire
William Rose        21                                         Newton, Lincolnshire
Charles Rose        11                                         Newton, Lincolnshire
Rebecca Rose          7                                         Newton, Lincolnshire
Frank Henry Rose   4                                        Newton, Lincolnshire

[groom]

This could be a first marriage for Mary Ann Rose (Rosa)

 John Hibbert
 Mary Ann Rose
 Date:   26 May 1861
 Gainsborough, Lincoln, England
Father's Name:   James Hibbert
Spouse's Father's Name:   William Rose

Newton came under the Gainsborough registration district.