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grand jury verdict 1844
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi .. need some help here...
while trolling thru uncounted random phrases & pages re my subject, I happened on a snippet from the Wexford Independent dated 11 Dec 1844.
A grand jury had deliberated and rendered a verdict presumably that day.
Verdict was 'acquitted by reason of insanity' and court decided prisoner would be held pending further action.
The charge was murder.
While scribbling the above for myself I didn't take note of the webpage or search term or where found on page. And despite a heap of effort can't raise it again.
What I would really like to know is: the name of the victim - location of residence - name of the acquitted and his eventual disposition.
I have a guy who simply disappeared leaving wife and 4 kids. He had a real good job with excellent perks. There's no BMD of him to be found - as if the slate was wiped clean.
I have another guy same surname died Carlow Insane Asylum buried 23 Dec 1844 - suicide  - with no known birthplace provable - no known family seen - no known burial spot found
Only known sign of guy #1 having lived is his name on a child's birth cert.
Only known sign of guy # 2 is note in burial register.
I have to think that they are one and same since guy # 1 spouse's birth date is 1810 [est] and guy #2 was born 1810 according to burial cert.
Don't know if my guy #2 was the one but some of the Govt Returns for Wexford show one suicide noted in 1844 statistics from Carlow Asylum so seems likely he was the one indicated.
Thanx a bunch for reading and if you can help please do
Rodc ???

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Re: grand jury verdict 1844
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 March 15 08:51 GMT (UK) »
Irish records of the 18th and 19th centuries are far from complete - so it is no surprise that you can't find records? ::)

Have you considered that your chap may have emigrated?
Remembering that The Great Famine (Irish: an Gorta Mór) was a period of mass starvation, disease and emigration in Ireland between 1845 and 1852.
And things weren't a lot better before that!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: grand jury verdict 1844
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 March 15 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Back in 1844 any person who died by suicide could not be buried in consecrated ground.

Some surnames changed over time and when they emigrated.
Very few ordinary people in Ireland could read & write in 1844
Have you tried variations of the surname in your searches.
Some church records exist for the early 1800's


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Re: grand jury verdict 1844
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 March 15 14:13 GMT (UK) »
The Wexford Independent from Dec 11 1844 is available on FindMyPast
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder


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Re: grand jury verdict 1844
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 March 15 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Read through the 4 pages of the Wexford Independent for Dec 11 1844, no reference to a Grand Jury case, acquittal on insanity, etc.