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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 22 March 15 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Is this Nancy Riley with her Mother  ??? St Paul Blackburn 1861  ???

George Shorrock  39 Alice Shorrock  38
Mary Riley  42
Ellen Riley  15 Nancy Riley  13
Margt Ann Riley  11
Robert Cook Riley  8
Betsy Jane Riley  6
John William Riley  8 months.
Harriet Cenlock  1

Many deaths for a William Riley and Mary Riley in Blackburn between 1861 and 1871 which could be either of them.

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 22 March 15 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra, yes it is.  My great grandma was Margaret Ann, sadly she died the day before her 40th birthday from horrendous burns  :'(

The earlier question about Nancy, no she didn't have a second name (as far as I know), but not at baptism.

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 22 March 15 10:49 GMT (UK) »
IF that is Nancy with her mother in 1861 above - Perhaps this is a long shot BUT could this be her Mother Mary with a brother John in Baltimore in 1900  ???

Baltimore Ward 24, Baltimore City (Independent City), Maryland 1900

Mary Riley  69 Born March 1821 England. Widowed. Immigrated 1880.
John Riley  40 Born July 1859 England. Immigrated 1879. NA. Bricklayer.

Can see a baptism record for a John William Riley born 10 August 1860 baptised 23 September 1860 to William and Mary Riley. (date slightly out from census but that would not be unusual)
One to bear in mind until we can discount it  ???

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ND53-76X

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 22 March 15 10:52 GMT (UK) »
What about this entry posted by Heatherjulie on the other thread - at first I thought it was your Nancy Riley but the age is way out.  This Nancy Ann Dobson married Joseph Morris Dec 1882 - Blackburn - 8e 535 and they had a son Arthur Morris. Family show on 1891 census below. By 1901 Nancy Ann Dobson Morris seems to be with James Lathom and they have a son Joseph Dobson Lathom. That also discounts one of those sets of marriages in 1882 Blackburn. George and Mary Riley wouldn't appear to be partogf the family you are looking for.

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1881
George Riley  61
Mary Riley  60
Alice Dobson  46
Nancy A. Dobson  27 unmarried Boarder
RG11/4180/36/12


and Husband Thomas with other Riley relatives.

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1881
16 Cooper Street
Lucy Schofield  48
Ellen Riley  29
Robert Riley  29 son in law
Joseph Riley  6
Susannah Riley  1
Thomas Dobson  34 married brother-in-law  Plasterer
RG11/4193/26/45


This is the Nancy Ann Dobson who married Joseph Morris - in 1891 St Luke Blackburn

Joseph Morris  33 Nancy A Morris  33
Arthur Morris  8
Alice Dobson  58

and 1901 Nancy with James Lathom

James Lathom  42 Nancy Ann Lathom  42
Joseph Dobron Lathom  4
Arthur Morris  18  Alice Dobson  67



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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 22 March 15 11:14 GMT (UK) »
One of the children shown on that 1861 Census has a middle name - Robert Cook Riley born 1853.
Suggests the marriage of the parents could be William Riley to Mary Cook - Q4 Oct/Nov/Dec 1844 Blackburn - Vol 21 Page 3.
St Marys Blackburn. Williams Father - George Riley and Mary's - Robert Cook


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6T2-F7M

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6YQ-LSZ

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 22 March 15 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

The second - Cooper St is correct but not the first.   I'm pretty sure (as much as I can be) that Nancy Ann Dobson is the daughter of Alice.    That Nancy married in 1882.

The info in you last post is correct too.  Cook sometimes written as Cooke!

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 22 March 15 11:50 GMT (UK) »
The John William Riley you mentioned - born 1860, died in 1862.   

So many children died in their first few years.      :'(

Most of the info on this family I already have, with just a few niggling queries. 
It was Robert Dobson cropping up in the US who really started me off again.  You know how it is, you find a crumb and it makes you absolutely need to find the whole loaf!   ;D


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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 22 March 15 12:02 GMT (UK) »
For 2 children to end up in the USA, no record of either child on a UK Census, no record of passenger lists popping up as yet and no record of Nancy to be found in the UK, every avenue has to be explored. Which made me wonder if Nancy had remarried and took the children to the USA under another surname.  What's that old saying "More ways than one to skin a cat"   ;)

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Re: Robert Dobson, born England - 1876, died Vermont - 1947.
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 22 March 15 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Not enough cats around to skin Sandra  ;)  Even if I would do such a thing.

Must be getting ready to go out, my daughter is insisting that I go for a walk with her and the dogs!  Have about 20 minutes left though.

and 1901 Nancy with James Lathom

James Lathom  42 Nancy Ann Lathom  42
Joseph Dobron Lathom  4
Arthur Morris  18  Alice Dobson  67


Yes Joseph Dobson Latham was born 1897, Nancy re-married in 1895 - to James Laytham.