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Who was Rennard Mawson?
« on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:02 BST (UK) »
Hi all. I've got myself into a right palaver.

I identified Rennard Mawson (b. abt. 1837, Shipley) as the husband of Lydia Hollis through the 1861 census, Shipley, Yorkshire. In the same household is a son called Rennard Hollis - I assumed he was their son, born before their marriage. There are several other, Mawson, children.

I have found no other reference anywhere to this man. Couldn't find a marriage, or his birth, or any other census entries, although Lydia is quite easy to find.

I started to follow up his children and was thrown to find that at least a couple of them give their father's name as William Mawson on marriage entries. I initially dismissed it and decided I was looking at the wrong people, but then I peeped at someone else's tree and saw that they had Lydia's husband as William and not as Rennard. So, I decided it might be worthwhile treating him as a William, just to see...

I found a marriage dated 2 Nov 1857 (right time) between Lydia Holles, daughter of John Holles, tailor (all correct) and William Mawson, which took place in Shipley (correct).

In the 1871 census, Lydia was alone at an address in Shipley, married but husband not present, and I've never been able to find him. By 1881, she's calling herself widow, although I can't find his death.

Using the name William, I've now found someone in the 1871 census that could be him, in very much the right place, a weaver, living with a widow Mary Ann Baldwin and her daughter. His age is pretty much right, born Baildon, which I think is part of Shipley. I still haven't found a death for him, and I can't find him in the 1881 census.

Could he have changed his name, or had two names? I can't dismiss the name Rennard as it was his son's name, and also a grandson's name. His children presumably knew about both names, so it can't have been a secret identity.

That's all a bit long-winded but can anyone help? Has anyone come across Rennard/William Mawson? Or a similar situation? Or am I totally barking up the wrong tree?!

Hope so  ???
Robertson: Bute/Greenock/Stepney/Liverpool
Lamont: Bute/Argyll
Clough: Howden, Yorkshire
Carter: Howden and Knottingley,Yorkshire/Eccleshall, Staffs
Firth: Sheffield
Fowler: Sheffield
Quipp: Lincoln
Metcalf: Barnard Castle/Lincoln
Liddiard: Leicester/West London
Proudlock: Northumberland/CoDurham/Mauritius/Derby
Heywood: Derby
Vann: Wigston Magna, Leicester
Greatorex: Macclesfield/Nottingham
Hollis: Bradford/Lincoln/Redditch/High Wycombe
Walkerdine: Derbyshire/Staffordshire

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:11 BST (UK) »
I like the name Rennard.  It may have been his middle name, mother's maiden name even.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:17 BST (UK) »
This could be him in 1851 born Baildon with father William

William Mawson (down as Manson but amended) 46
Ann 46
Jane 22
Mary 19
Thomas 25
William 17
Martha 14
Duke 10
Joseph 6

In 1861 he's a lodger in Bradford age 26 married

The match you found in 1871 with the Baldwin girls fits rather well
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi there, thanks for getting back to me!

It could be a middle name, and perhaps that's the most obvious answer - but I've never seen the two names used together, even though I've looked...

Thanks very much for the 1851 census - I'll follow that up...
Robertson: Bute/Greenock/Stepney/Liverpool
Lamont: Bute/Argyll
Clough: Howden, Yorkshire
Carter: Howden and Knottingley,Yorkshire/Eccleshall, Staffs
Firth: Sheffield
Fowler: Sheffield
Quipp: Lincoln
Metcalf: Barnard Castle/Lincoln
Liddiard: Leicester/West London
Proudlock: Northumberland/CoDurham/Mauritius/Derby
Heywood: Derby
Vann: Wigston Magna, Leicester
Greatorex: Macclesfield/Nottingham
Hollis: Bradford/Lincoln/Redditch/High Wycombe
Walkerdine: Derbyshire/Staffordshire


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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Nicknock, there is a 5 year old thread regarding this family here. The thread was started by Gerry who is still active on Rootschat, you could send him a pm to see if he has got any further with his research.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=459407.0
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Jool, thanks very much for the link - I will follow it and see if Gerry got anywhere...
Robertson: Bute/Greenock/Stepney/Liverpool
Lamont: Bute/Argyll
Clough: Howden, Yorkshire
Carter: Howden and Knottingley,Yorkshire/Eccleshall, Staffs
Firth: Sheffield
Fowler: Sheffield
Quipp: Lincoln
Metcalf: Barnard Castle/Lincoln
Liddiard: Leicester/West London
Proudlock: Northumberland/CoDurham/Mauritius/Derby
Heywood: Derby
Vann: Wigston Magna, Leicester
Greatorex: Macclesfield/Nottingham
Hollis: Bradford/Lincoln/Redditch/High Wycombe
Walkerdine: Derbyshire/Staffordshire

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 16:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again nicknock, the link below may be of interest to you, it mentions Mawson and Rennard families in the Baildon area.

The Lost Villages of Baildon Moor

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f2a/
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 17:11 BST (UK) »
Thankyou! That's an interesting link...
Robertson: Bute/Greenock/Stepney/Liverpool
Lamont: Bute/Argyll
Clough: Howden, Yorkshire
Carter: Howden and Knottingley,Yorkshire/Eccleshall, Staffs
Firth: Sheffield
Fowler: Sheffield
Quipp: Lincoln
Metcalf: Barnard Castle/Lincoln
Liddiard: Leicester/West London
Proudlock: Northumberland/CoDurham/Mauritius/Derby
Heywood: Derby
Vann: Wigston Magna, Leicester
Greatorex: Macclesfield/Nottingham
Hollis: Bradford/Lincoln/Redditch/High Wycombe
Walkerdine: Derbyshire/Staffordshire

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Re: Who was Rennard Mawson?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 April 15 01:13 BST (UK) »
This could be him in 1851 born Baildon with father William

William Mawson (down as Manson but amended) 46
Ann 46
Jane 22
Mary 19
Thomas 25
William 17
Martha 14
Duke 10
Joseph 6

In 1861 he's a lodger in Bradford age 26 married

The match you found in 1871 with the Baldwin girls fits rather well

I think it a very good chance the above family is correct.  Both William and Ann are born in Baildon which was in the parish of Otley.  This marriage fits rather well.

Name:    Anne Reynard
Marriage or Bann Date:    26 Oct 1823
Parish:    Otley, All Saints
Spouse's Name:    William Mawson [weaver]
witnesses: William Mawson and Stephen Longfield