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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #18 on: Monday 13 April 15 16:07 BST (UK) »
now thats the thing, on her marriage it says father ernest john leslie , widow, now it seems this was probably her older brother acting/standing in , he was married prior to her wedding
PAGDEN/PAGDIN.. SPALDING.. SHEPPARD.. baverstock..lesware..leslie

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 April 15 18:29 BST (UK) »
She married in India didn't she, would her brother have been there?

Ernest John Leslie is the name on her baptism an engineer so I guess Alice had the sense not to give the Lesware name that time.

Widow..... I don't get that, who is listed as a widow?

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 April 15 19:16 BST (UK) »
on her brothers baptism it states father ernest john LESWARE , the daughters baptism it states leslie,when eileen gets married it says father ernest john leslie WIDOWED, but according to what has been discovered it looks like their mother ALICE was having a fling with a married man when they were conceived, the children are illigitamate and the father on eileen"s wedding cert is probably her brother standing in
PAGDEN/PAGDIN.. SPALDING.. SHEPPARD.. baverstock..lesware..leslie

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 April 15 19:34 BST (UK) »
Ah Widowed.
Odd thing to write on a marriage cert, I've never come across that before.
So Alice is dead by the time Eileen gets married.

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Re: alice leslie 1865
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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 April 15 21:32 BST (UK) »
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014884/005014884_00349.pdf

An older will with a mention of Liverpool, might give leads as to how the surname got to Dublin !

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 April 15 21:44 BST (UK) »
Just if you are interested you can track Alice on this site for a few years !

http://www.dublinheritage.ie/burgesses/search_new.php

1908 41 Prospect Avenue
1909 41 Prospect Avenue
1910 3 Prospect Avenue
1911 3 Prospect Avenue
1912 3 & 5 Prospect Avenue

All the Leswares are on it too !

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Re: alice leslie 1865
« Reply #26 on: Monday 13 April 15 21:55 BST (UK) »
I note under both Census that Alice has no occupation against her.

Could we presume that Ernest was supporting her ?

Also, this is just a theory, but aren't Leslie and Lesware very similar ?!

I'm just wondering MIGHT Alice have 'adopted' a surname similar to Ernest.

A wild shot I know but the Les(s)wares seem fairly easy for you to work out on your tree ~

I can't see any good leads or possibilites to trace Alice backwards.

Tara
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