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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 April 15 22:03 BST (UK) »
Very true.

Mary died on the 10th July 1894. Sidney and Mary are buried together, but there's no mention of Janet on the gravestone. Janet died in 1913. Maybe she's buried with her first husband. I'll have to change the birth year of Sidney to 1844 or 1845. Perhaps I should make a visit to Gloucestershire records office and look for his birth in those years.

Thanks again

Jon
Barwick: Wootton Courtenay, Somerset
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Rawle: Wootton Courtenay, Somerset
Williams: Hay-on-Wye, Breconshire/Powys, Wales
Pegg: Corpusty/Saxthorp, Norfolk
Stace: Epping, Essex
Singleton: Chillington, Somerset

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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 April 15 14:50 BST (UK) »
Hi again, if you do go ahead and visit Gloucester Records I would suggest a possible birth for Sidney/Sydney of 1845/6, still attempting to establish how Sidney is so closely attached to his uncle William Williams?

This is the Temperance Williams who married Nicholas Morgan Reece in Trelleck Grange in 1846, he uses Morgan on census returns as his first name, Temperance b Pontypool:-

James Williams 55 occ Wood Dealer
Mary 40
Peter 8
Edward 5
Abel 15
Temperance 15
Sarah 12
Elizabeth 10
Martha 1
Residing at Trelleck Grange, Monmouthshire
Census ref HO107/747/ 26/4 / 2
Rest of family 1851 HO107/2443/212/4
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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 April 15 20:20 BST (UK) »
if the age on the 1861 census is correct, there is this possible birth reg

Male Williams june qtr 1844 Newent vol 11 pg 371

If he was born into a Baptist family, you are unlikely to find a useful baptism. Baptists practise Believer's baptism around the age of 15 or upwards. Not usual for names of parents to be included.
http://www.baptist.org.uk/Groups/220594/Believers_Baptism.aspx

The child may appear on the birth register of the Baptist Church the family attended but the records may not be at the record office.

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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 April 15 13:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Osprey. Very interesting to learn about the Baptist practise of believer's baptism. I've come to suspect that the record office doesn't hold the records I seek. Same with the Quakers.
Barwick: Wootton Courtenay, Somerset
             Maesteg, Glamorgan
Rawle: Wootton Courtenay, Somerset
Williams: Hay-on-Wye, Breconshire/Powys, Wales
Pegg: Corpusty/Saxthorp, Norfolk
Stace: Epping, Essex
Singleton: Chillington, Somerset


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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 April 15 16:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Osprey. Very interesting to learn about the Baptist practise of believer's baptism. I've come to suspect that the record office doesn't hold the records I seek. Same with the Quakers.

The "Male" Williams b 1844 Newent shown by Osprey is surely worth investing in?

In my opinion his mother was the Temperance who married Nicholas Morgan Reece, but the Father?
What records therefore do you seek?
But then again?

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Re: Sidney Williams (b1848) of Newent, Gloucestershire.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 April 15 17:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Osprey. Very interesting to learn about the Baptist practise of believer's baptism. I've come to suspect that the record office doesn't hold the records I seek. Same with the Quakers.

The "Male" Williams b 1844 Newent shown by Osprey is surely worth investing in or investigating?

In my opinion his mother was the Temperance who married Nicholas Morgan Reece, but the Father?
What records therefore do you seek?
But then again?

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