Catherine Bain, Inverkeillor, Angus

[MonicaL]

Wasn't expecting for John Nicol Snr to die in Australia:

Name Jno Nicol
Death Age   57
Birth Date   abt 1849
Death Date Abt 1906
Death Place Hotham, Victoria
Registration Date 1906
Registration Place Australia
Father   Nicol Chas
Mother   Margt Lockie
Registration Number   1981

Monica

[SummersSA]

Hi Monica. Thanks that does appear to be the same Nicol family. There are quite a few with the same names so it starts getting a little confusing when looking at one being in America and another in UK etc. I'm also trying to learn how to use this chat forum for the 1st time. someone has sent me a personal message however I am battling to find a way to reply. Technology.....

[SummersSA]

Hi Jen,

Welllllll, James Jolly and Ann Hood Christie are my gg grandparents.  Their Betsy Jane married David Dakers in 1867 and their Annabella Christie Dakers married Edward Arthur Parton in Liverpool in 1899 and their 7th child together (Arthur had been married in 1891 and had a daughter but his wife died in 1893) Mabel Parton is my mother.

On the Jolly side I go back to John 1760-1835 m Margaret Young (Abt 1755-?).

Roger

Hi Roger
I think that I got a message from you. Forgive me if it wasn't. However I have one message in my messages box and it says that I am at 100% full. I cant seem to find a reply. I have only been on Roots for a few days and I am still trying to figure out my way around the site. with Regards to the Dakers. I have the following:

Isabella? married William Dakers (not 100% certain of this info. no dates siblings etc)
They had a son James Dakers 1799-1880 married to Catherine Bain 1798-1848
There marriage was in 16 august 1823
They had chindren:
- David Dakers 1835-1891 married to Betsy Jane Dakers 1846-1933 (marriage 27 feb 1867)
- James Dakers 1824-1869
- Elizabeth Craig (nee Dakers) 1826
- Isabella Dakers 1828-1894
- William Dakers 1832- 1854

David Dakers Married to Betsy Jane Dakers (Nee Jolly) had childeren:
- David Dakers 1868 married Catherine Cook Dakers (Nee Sharp)
- James Bain Dakers 1869
- Frederick C Dakers 1872
- Annabella C Dakers 1873- 1967
- Edward John William Dakers 1879- 1947

David who Married Catherine Cook Sharp a child (not sure if there were more)
- John "Ian" Sharp Dakers 1916 (My Grandfather)

John "Ian" Sharp Dakers Married Daphne Munger and had a son Gordon Dakers.
John Sharp and Daphne separated and John married my gran Jean Lockie Nicol.
John Sharp and Jean Lockie Nicol had the following children:

- Suzanne Catherine Summers 1952(nee Dakers) (My Mother)
- Heather Dakers 1955
- Louise Le Grange 1962 (Nee Dakers)

Suzanne Dakers Married Henry Charles James Summers (My father)
They have two Children:
- Henry Richard Charles Summers 1981 (myself)
- Katherine Jean Artz (nee Summers)

I have quite a good xcel doc with a diagram showing how the following families are all linked. Bearing in mind some are now my wifes family tree.
- Summers
- Dakers
- Nicol
- Black
- Mac Donald
- Jonck
- Areington

also small links to the following and more
- Lepper
- Copeland
- Jolly
- Jarman
- Bailey
- Boardman
- Grobecker
- Breach
- Spicer
- Sladden
- Tucker
- Grey
- Bowyer

If you would like the xcel  I am happy to share. Hopefully I am allowed to do this. Shout if I am breaking the rules in anyway 

[Brunning]

Hi Richard, many thanks for the follow up and your pm. I had to resort to a pm to you because I couldn't find a way to post either. I would love a copy of your spreadsheet please, I would like to find the sources of the marriages in your line as I cannot find them at the moment. I will pm you with my email address.

Regards Roger

[MonicaL]

Richard, there are some initial restrictions on new members using the Private Message service (PMs). You need to post a couple of times on the main boards to be able to access this service. Sounds like you are there and you and Roger have been able to make contact that way. The PM service is the only way to exchange personal emails and info. This is done to protect people from the misuse of emails etc by spammers.

Anyway, looks like all good now 

In respect of Thomas and his marriage in Belfast, Ireland in 1901. I mentioned that the Irish BMD site was down for a few days. It is now back up thankfully. This was Thomas's marriage registration https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10315/5755054.pdf

To access the site/image, just add your name and tick box, followed by a tick to the captcha box and you can view and search. In this registration, father John is described as a Merchant by trade. Brother James S Nicol is a witness to Thomas's marriage.

By the look of it, this family were ambitious and felt the need to travel! You will  need to look at various sources and countries to follow up. www.familysearch.org is very good for American, SA and other world records...and it is free! Other research sites available on a subscription basis. SP I think you are familiar with? SP will let you research up the line of William's parents.

Remember that RootsChat covers other countries too so you can ask for help of people here on RC who have expertise in researching in those areas. Just try to link posts on the family in new posts so that people here can see what else has been found already and not waste time repeating searches.

Monica