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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 April 15 00:55 BST (UK) »
Some more....

Deaths
WARRAY David
Father Henry    Mother Elizabeth ARTHUR
At Collingwood  1854  4 Months  Reg#5017

WERRY Henry
Father John  Mother Mary
1968 62 years  Born Cornwall  Reg#6067

WERREY Elizabeth
Father ARTHUR   Mother Not recorded
At Warragul  1883  70 years   Reg#3865
 
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Sep 1841   
WARRAY Henry   Redruth  9/277
ARTHUR Elizabeth    Redruth 9/277   

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 April 15 01:23 BST (UK) »
So if Mary's parents married in the UK it seems unlikely they were Aboriginal, though not impossible they were Carribean or even African American... or perhaps Mr WELLS from Ohio was dark skinned?

By the way the term 'half caste' is considered very offensive in modern times. It generally was used to 'classify' Aboriginal Australians but also other indigenous people historically, and rarely with positive connotatations or consequences (e.g. a way of selecting which children to remove). An African American/white person was called 'mulatto' - again, not a particularly nice term.

'Mixed race' is also obsolete.

Biracial is probably a more acceptable term to use now. I appreciate you meant abosolutely no offence, but perhaps you can amend your post subject title and body?  ???

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 April 15 01:32 BST (UK) »
Brown Eyes, Dark Skin, Black Hair and fine features from Cornwall suggests to me a CELTIC Heritage. Similar to mine.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 April 15 01:37 BST (UK) »
 :) Agh,  "Black Irish" was a term used back late 19th Century in and around Sydney NSW and out around Bourke NSW,   :)  :)  :)

May I suggest that Biracial is perhaps too specific (Bi = two) and "racial minorities" is another alterative.

Without going too far off topic,  here is a link to an article offering "racial minorities":

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-30/riseman-racial-slurs-have-a-history/4722082

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 April 15 01:57 BST (UK) »
A very interesting article on the Blacks of England. : http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/articles/the-ancient-celts-and-vikings-were-black-people-by-dr-clyde-winters/


Genetically speaking, nearly completely throughout the British Isles the races that make up the Modern peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland are very much Blended from Northern Europeans, Southern Europeans, Picts and Celts. The differences within even one family can be astounding. One thing in common with all is that if the predominate Gene is Celtic and the person is of a Dark appearance then they have around a 50% greater chance of a long term lack of Vitamin B12. Without proper medication IE Injections of B12, then in later life, they can suffer a much higher chance of Dementia.

I have done quite a bit of research on the subject.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 April 15 02:08 BST (UK) »
Back on track :)

Mmm would be interesting to compare this certificate with the 1868 marriage to Mary WERREY

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Dec 1864
WELLS William Henry Harrison Portsea Is 2b/687
BARRETT Eliza  Portsea Is  2b/687

Death
WELLS William Henry Harrison
Father Unknown  Mother Unknown
At Melbourne South  1902  72 years  Reg#6658

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 April 15 03:14 BST (UK) »
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This lister is wondering if the William H. H. Wells on the US 1850 census is the same the William Henry Harrison WELLS [born Ohio] who married Mary WERRY in 1868 in Victoria, Australia?
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WELLS/1997-12/0881218917
 

Firstly the age is wrong as Wm H H was 72 when he died in 1902 so born c1830.
Secondly, the above man is still living in the same household in 1870 US Census.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 30 April 15 03:53 BST (UK) »
 
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My great grandmother was Fanny WELLS or Frances, she was born about 1884 in Warracknabeal,  Victoria,  Australia. 

Until 1885 the town was known as Werrecknabeal.  Fanny's birth registration shows she was born at WARR.  This could be Warragal, Warrnambool or Warrion.  The abbreviation for Warracknabeal is usually WBEAL. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warragul

Remember Mary's mother died at Warragul in 1885.

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WERREY Elizabeth
Father ARTHUR   Mother Not recorded
At Warragul  1883  70 years   Reg#3865

You need some certificates.

Images of certs can be purchased online for AUD$21 and immediately.
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/family+history+certificates/purchase+an+uncertified+image

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for mixed race great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 30 April 15 04:59 BST (UK) »
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WELLS  William Henry Harris
Father William Henry
Mother Mary WERREY
Birth Place MELBOURNE
Death Place:
Year 1869
Reg 23804
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Death in NSW
17683/1921     
WELLS William H    
Father William  Mother Mary
District Liverpool

Sydney Morning Herald 22 Dec 1921
WELLS December 20, 1921 at Liverpool, William Henry Harrison Wells dearly beloved husband of Mrs Florence Mary Wells, aged 54 years. 

Possible Marriage
10111/1902     
WELLS    William    
CAMERON    Florence
District St Peters

http://www.jje.info/lostlives/exhib/rabaulmemorial/alpha/w.html
WELLS, William Henry Harrison, Pte, NX27623. AIF 2/10 Field Ambulance, Australian Army Medical Corps. 1 July 1942. Age 32. Son of William Henry Harrison Wells and Florence May Wells. Panel 31.

http://montevideomaru.naa.gov.au/pows-internees/index.aspx?id=5028

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
His file has been digitised and includes a photograph. 
Death of NOK his sister Vera.

35944/1967     
HICKEY    Vera Berniece Rhoda    
Father William Henry Harrison      Mother Florance May    
District Sydney

And Vera's grand daughter is a member of rootschat ;D.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719190.0

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