1851 census look up John Phillips

[VivienR]

Hi
would some kind soul  look up in the 1851 census
John Phillips born 1815 in Gellygaer
wife Elizabeth born 1818 in Cowbridge
 daughters Elisabeth born 1840, Mary born 1845.
Thanks.  Have the family from 1901 back to 1871.  Can't find them in 1861,  so hope they might appear in 1851.
Vivien
           
Phillips- Gellygaer, Aberdare
Jones - Dowlais
Gillard - Lopen
Chislett - Seavington St. Mary
       

[Vicky]

Hi Vivien
This is the only John PHILLIPS born in gellygear that I could find.
Piece: 2458      Folio: 614     Schedule: 065
PENYLAN               

John PHILLIPS HD U  34   FARMER,73 ACRES  GLA GELLIGAER
Cathrine JONES NC -  11   VISITING  GLA MERTHYR TYDFIL
Sarah JONES SV U  50   HOUSEMAID  CMN TRELECH
John DAVIES SV -  28   INDOOR FARM LABOURER  PEM [CMN] LLANWINIO

Vicky.

[boycefamilytree]

think this is john in 1861

1861 CENSUS OF PENTREBACH DISTRICT. REF.R.G.9/4054, E.D.23.                                                                     

Piece: 4054      Folio: 104     Schedule: 187

Address: PENLAN FARM           

PHILLIPS JOHN              HD U  45   FARMER OF 89 ACRES       
                                      GLA GELLIGAER                    (c1816)
PRICE JOHN                 SV U  25   FARM LABOURER             
                                      RAD DISSERTH                     (c1836)
JONES SARAH                SV U  60   HOUSEKEEPER               
                                      CMN TRELECH                      (c1801)

Think the Daughter and wife may have died prior to 1851 /1861 census reports .
try freebmd you may find them between 1837 and 1851 .

hope this helps
David Boyce

[VivienR]

Thank you Vicky and David  for taking the time to look up my John Phillips request.  Having John on his own in 1851 and 1861 is a bit perplexing..  Here he is in 1881 with a wife and two older sons, a widowed daughter and a widowed son in law.
I also found him in 1871 with his wife Elisabeth, three sons and 1 daughter.

I have searched and searched the 1861 census when I get down to the FHS and have access to Ancestry but cannot find any trace of the rest of his family.
   They had to be somewhere since the three boys were born in Aberdare in 1856, 1858 and 1862. It's a puzzle.
 




1881 census

John PHILLIPS  Head M Male    66 Gellygaer, Glamorgan, Wales Coal Miner
Elizabeth PHILLIPS Wife M Female 62    Llanblethian, Glamorgan, Wales
Philip PHILLIPS Son    U Male 22 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Checkweigher (At Colliery)
David PHILLIPS Son U Male    19    Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales    Collier    
Mary JONES Daur    W Female 36    Llangynydd, Brecknock, Wales    
Elizabeth JONES Niece U Female 6    Llangynwr, Glamorgan, Wales    
Thomas Joseph JONES Nephew U Male    1 Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Edward JAMES Son In Law W Male 44 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Haulier (Coal)
Philip JAMES Nephew U Male    22 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Haulier (Coal)
Sarah JAMES Niece    U Female 16    Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales    Servant
John JAMES  Nephew U Male    13 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Striker (B Smith)       

Source Information:
   Dwelling    10 Primrose Hill   
   Census Place   Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales   
   Family History Library Film    
   Public Records Office Reference    RG11   
   Piece / Folio    5305 / 80   
   Page Number    62

[boycefamilytree]

i will look for them again when i have five minutes.

david boyce