Women In Griffiths Valuation

[taramcdsmall]

Hi CD

It would appear through family folklore of Colin's that he has two Great Grandparents whom are cousins and is trying to work out the connection.

The GV is NOT the way to do it though, in my opinion.

I shall wait for Colin to get back to clarify what help he exactly needs 

Tara

[california dreamin]

Hi Tara

Good idea as he seems to have signed off now. 

I have just unravelled a similar problem myself (hence my interest  )  I used everything Civil Reg (where it existed), parish registers, tithe records, GV, revision books.  Also, parish details of other local family members.  It has worked but takes time. 

CD

[taramcdsmall]

Yup,

GV is NOT for the fainthearted as there can be a lot of ways to translate the information on it.

I spent a LOT of time on GV with my hubbies farming ancestors when I started out CONVINCED that there were a LOT of people in the same townland with the same name.

HA, turned out it was the one person leasing different plots of land.

Oh I can laugh about it now ~ at the time it gave me a lot of headaches 

Tara

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   I had the same problem - not just in one townland but in three neighbouring townlands.

Regards

[taramcdsmall]

Me too Kingskerswell

There were 5 brothers whom leased 2 plots of land EACH in two different townlands, then they went on to jointly lease another plot of land in a further townland.

I thought the general area was teaming with the Surname but NO it was just 5 enterprising brothers 

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Colin,

I've read a good portion of your blog.

HA I'm going to 'bow down' out of trying to help you with this one.

You have gone into SUPER detail here :

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~colin/Ancestors/Ferguson/index.htm

I'm afraid though that I am having trouble in following what appears to be this family appearing in quite a few counties in Ireland and abroad ~ the double appearance of the same surname is making it very tricky to extract the two branches.

I wish you well though on your journey !

Tara

[ColinUSA]

Hi Tara,
Thanks, I knew nothing about the Petty Session records. Yes, that is my site. For completeness sake I've attached a snippet from the valuation records I was looking at. One thing I hadn't noticed before is the tiny "dec'd" next to John Ferguson's name in the observation column. The chicken scratches are unclear but I suppose they were made in 1862.
Colin

[california dreamin]

Hi Colin
If I were you I would be looking at all of the revision books and having a look at any changes over the years.  Revisions were done approx every 10 yrs but this did vary. Any changes of tax or tenancy were noted at this time.

The notation on this document is quite interesting it reads something like:  James Millan (?) claims to be instead of M?? or ??   John Ferguson for Rob Ferguson for 1862  John Ferguson dec.

So really you need to find out more.

At the beginning James McClenn jun is crossed out and John Ferguson written above showing a xfer of tenancy.

I would also be looking at the estate of  The Hon. Somerset Maxwell.  For example:
http://sources.nli.ie/Record/MS_UR_077926

All the GV information, revision book info + dates, any parish or Civil reg information should give you a better idea of family connections.

Good luck
CD

Note: There is a James Mullen listed on the GV on Plot 3 in Tullyboy - so perhaps this is the man disputing the claim of Ferguson?

[ColinUSA]

CD,
Good advice. I looked at all the revisions about 10 years ago and will re-examine them, they are on LDS Film. 

The James McClenn jun you noted crossed out is James McClean Jun. I think he is the brother of Arthur McClean who is also one of my ancestors.

Thanks,
Colin