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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 23:17 BST (UK) »
According to Genuki,Brookhouse was part of Llanrhaeadr yng Nghimeirch sub-district of Llanrhaeadr/Ruthin

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/LlanrhaeadrNghinmeirch/

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/placemaps

According to FreeBMD there is only one death in Ruthin district consistent with a birth date of 1844 and that is in Mar qtr 1911(11b 216).Perhaps this is one you have already obtained?
Interestingly,NorthWalesBMD has two deaths for a Robert Roberts(one a Robert J Roberts)in 1911

1911 RHAEADR/07/4
1911 RHAEADR/07/5  (Robert J Roberts)

Perhaps a request to the local office at Ruthin may distinguish these and/or reveal any relevance.

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 23:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Robert Roberts b 1844 -?

1871 living in Brookhouse with wife Jane and children Margaret and 'Baby', no number for Brookhouse
1881 living in 22 Brookhouse with wife Jane and children Robert, Jane and Mary A
1891 still lilving in 22 Brookhouse with wife Jane and daughter Mary A.
1901 living at 12 Brookhouse with wife Jane, no children.
wife Jane is widowed on the 1911 census and is living with her daughter and son in law in Pwllglas.
I live in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, my parents live in N Wales and I visit a couple of times a year. I have had a quick look in St. Marcellas , the grass was quite high if I remember, but didn't have any success. I might have a clue from the census as it said St. Asaph registration district for the Brookhouse area, so I'll try one more time to find Robert.
It would be lovely to see a photo of the cottages though, thank you.
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Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 23:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Roger,
The 1911 death is the most recent one I sent for and it was incorrect. It was the same person I was muddled up with when i first began searching for my Robert Roberts as there were two born Gyffylliog in 1844. I will have to send an e-mail to the Archives to confirm the registration district. The Census gives Brookhouse as St.Asaph district, would that be different for BMD? My Robert Roberts didn't have a middle name noted in any census he was on so I would discount that.
Thank you for your information.
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Nerys
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 23:45 BST (UK) »
In the mean time,  If you find Brookhouse Mill  restaurants  post code  or agoogle address for it.  The row of cottages are just the other side of the main road  and just a short distance along the river.   You could look for them on Street View.   St Marcellas church is about a quarter to half a mile away.
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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 June 15 00:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your help, I didn't think to google it :)
Best wishes
Nerys
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 10 June 15 00:16 BST (UK) »
It is a little tricky with Brookhouse being so close to Denbigh,but I would keep with local references being under Llanrhaeadr/Ruthin as given on NorthWalesBMD and these are the references that the local office will understand also.unlike GRO.Age correlation between the NorthWalesBMD and FreeBMD doesn't appear possible unfortunately.
I have noticed there is a death for a Robert Roberts aged 62 in 1906 in Ruthin district(Mar qtr 11b 220).Unfortunately on NorthWalesBMD for that year there is both a Ruthin entry and a Llanrhaeadr entry.It is certainly worth enquiring about(not buying) the Llanrhaeadr one

1906 RHAEADR/06/70

For info Pwllglas is in the Efenechtyd sub district of Ruthin.

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 10 June 15 09:42 BST (UK) »
According to Genuki,Brookhouse was part of Llanrhaeadr yng Nghimeirch sub-district of Llanrhaeadr/Ruthin

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/LlanrhaeadrNghinmeirch/

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/placemaps

According to FreeBMD there is only one death in Ruthin district consistent with a birth date of 1844 and that is in Mar qtr 1911(11b 216).Perhaps this is one you have already obtained?
Interestingly,NorthWalesBMD has two deaths for a Robert Roberts(one a Robert J Roberts)in 1911

1911 RHAEADR/07/4
1911 RHAEADR/07/5  (Robert J Roberts)

Perhaps a request to the local office at Ruthin may distinguish these and/or reveal any relevance.

Regards
Roger

Llanrhaedr  is about two miles up the road from brookhouse.
There is an old church there with a very old cemetery.  So that could be an alternative location for the burial.
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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 10 June 15 11:22 BST (UK) »
I have not been  to the Llanrhaeadr Churchyard so that is a possibity. I'm trying to remember where Robert and Jane got married just in case that's a possibility too. Thank you :)
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Brookhouse, Denbigh
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 10 June 15 12:34 BST (UK) »
www.brookhousemill.co.uk   LL16 4WS    That will  enable you to  look at the maps and satellite views.
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