Thomas Berryman

[rosie99]

Post investigating Thomas's Cornish roots (to avoid duplication    )

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=721382.msg5652463#msg5652463

[Janette]

This may be his arrival in NZ in 1878 with family
Job Berriman 43 from Cornwall farm labourer
Jane Berriman 41
Emma Berriman 19
James Berriman 17
Mary Berriman 11
Thomas Berriman 8

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11675-1757-14?cc=1609792


Maybe not the ages don't fit

Cheers Janette

[staplehouse]

no this can not be the same family as Thomas was in NZ for 36 years when he died and he was aged 65

[whiteout7]

http://newzealandshipping.co.nz/History/Passenger/index.htm

Some free shipping lists to search

[Lucy2]

Hi staplehouse

A lot of the Cornish miners firstly went to Australia, before coming on to New Zealand.

I don't know if you have already found your Thomas in the 1861 UK census  ... and if not, then the following man traveling to Melbourne, Australia, may well be him ?

Ship:  "Caspian"
Departed Liverpool, UK - c. 20 March 1858
Arrived :  Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - 12 July 1858

Ticket No.  174  (there are three other men, all miners, on same ticket number.  I can't decipher their surnames immediately - will need to look at another list possibly.)

Saml. (Samuel) .... - 39 -
Thos. BERRYMAN - 24 [bc 1834] - Miner - Nationality:  English
.... can't decipher - aged 26
Saml. (Samuel) G .... - aged 24

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

no this can not be the same family as Thomas was in NZ for 36 years when he died and he was aged 65

You're correct - wrong Thomas.      [The 1878 Berryman family is actually a "James" (abbreviated as "Jas" on the passenger list), and wife Jane.   The young child was Thomas Rowe BERRYMAN. ]

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Thomas Berryman
 .....   36 years in country

Hi staplehouse

Do bear in mind that sometimes information given on death certificates can be less than accurate - especially "years spent in country".

Though if your Thomas arrived in New Zealand around 1862, it's unlikely he was on the West Coast at or near to, Hokitika, in that particular year.   [Hokitika wasn't founded until 1864. ]

A more likely scenario might be that he firstly went to the Otago province (South Island).  There was a great influx of men into the region when gold was discovered in 1861.   Very many of these men came from Australia (not just miners, but from a wide array of occupations).   When the gold rush commenced in 1864 in Westland (of which Hokitika is part ), many moved there.   Westland was also renowned for coal mining, so those with a mining background, tended to stay on.

There is a problem though with sourcing passenger lists for this time frame - because of the huge numbers of arrivals - and because people could travel freely between the countries of New Zealand and Australia.   Usually passengers lists only record the names of those travelling "Cabin / saloon" class, with all others simply mentioned as "x number in Steerage".

   ~  Lu