Marian Amy Try born 1879 - Died 1966

[ejones4765]

Diolch yn fawr I chi Ellen. Thank you.

[ejones4765]

Hello - It's the village of Rhiwlas between Caernarfon & Bangor. Is there a connection between this Rhiwlas and the one mentioned around the Denbigh area please?

[Ellenmai]

I'm so sorry Dewi for giving you the wrong information regarding the area Tom was living at on the 1911 Census. Having a senior moment 
When I looked again I realised it is the village of Ebenezer in the Parish of Llanddeiniolen. Ebenezer is now called Deiniolen, so you could be right regarding the Vaynol Estate as Vaynol Hall is about 4/5 miles north of the village.
Perhaps the Archive at Caernarvon could help you further as they hold the records for The Vaynol Estate.

[ejones4765]

Thank you Ellenmai

[nestagj]

What a good clue on the 1911 census where they have written in the dec'd childs name and then crossed it out.

From genuki

Land and Property
Bron y Fuches Records 1842-1957 - details of extant records on Archives Network Wales
"Records mainly relating to Bron y Fuches, Dinorwig, and the Williams family...."

Coed Helen Papers  - details of extant records on Archives Network Wales
"Includes; ....... rentals of the Coed Helen and Glascoed (Llanddeiniolen) estates, 1849-1862....."

By the look of it there was more than just the Vaynol Estate in the area.  Personally I would feel that the a person of that occupation would have lived much closer to the main Vaynol Estate house than Deiniolen which is some miles away.   My grandfather had the same occupation and literally lived 5 mins walk away.
Nesta

[Ellenmai]

I have had another look on Tom's Army records and he must have applied for a pension. Under the heading ' For Pension Purposes' it states he is awarded 10/-per week from 13/12/1935 for life. His address was 11 Rhyd-yr-Groes, Pentir, Near Bangor. Someone has written in red pen 'Died 25/9/36'
His father is named as next of kin when he joined up and that states Edwin Moore 1 Wilton Road, Merton, Surrey.