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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 June 15 20:30 BST (UK) »
 ??? head scratching time; that's the trouble with farmers, they either stayed put for centuries or were constantly on the move.   
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 June 15 21:53 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roy, in 1871 William Lewis 82 at New House Gelligaer was with a widowed Daughter Mary Morgans 41 b Gelligaer with an Elizabeth Morgans aged 12 b Bedwelty and a Sarah Lewis 8 who looks to have been baptised the same day April 7th 1868 as a William Father William Mother Margaret abode Pengaur?

In 1881
Thomas Rees 55 Occ Farmer of 50 acres
Mary 52
William 8
Plus 2 Servants
Residing at Tynewydd, Gelligaer
Census ref RG11/5308/128/14

1891 census

Thomas Rees 76?
Mary 62
William Lewis Rees 18
Residing at Tynewydd, Gelligaer
Census ref RG12/4432/131/14
Baptism January 31st 1883 Gelligaer abode Ty Newydd William Lewis Rees Father Thomas occ Farmer Mother Mary

In 1901 William Lewis Rees 29 married to a Blanche Leah 26 is running the Tynewydd Farm, they have a Rees Rees 72 as a visitor
Census ref RG13/5022/123/35
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 June 15 12:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard
 This may be the Tyneweydd farm at Pontlottyn (Brithdir Hamlet, Gelligaer parish).  I can't be sure if this is the family I'm seeking.  I keep going back to the 1873 Will of William Lewis (see start of topic) the way it is worded suggests that Mary Rees (wife of Thomas Rees farmer of Tir Jack) was the daughter of said William Lewis.   
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 June 15 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roy, ok Mary marries a Morgan /s he then dies and Mary married Thomas Rees?
Thomas and William and even Mary could possibly have been at Tir Jack c 1873 but moved to the new farm, it is the marriage to a Morgan or to Thomas Rees that would yes/no the above couple!
One marriage or the other she still would be daughter of William Lewis if her?
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 June 15 19:28 BST (UK) »
Yep, I agree with every word.

Keyboard, you have worked tirelessly on this topic and I can't thank you enough; your time & effort has been really appreciated.

Regards R
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 June 15 21:00 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roy. not giving up quite yet, as need to find Mary Lewis b c 1830 Gelligaer in 1861, this looks more than likely her and Elizabeth in 1861:-

John Morgan 51 occ Coal & Mine Contractor b Bedwelty
Mary 31 b Gelligaer
Elizabeth 1 b Ebbw Vale
Census ref RG09/4005/16/26

Baptism?
Elizabeth Morgans 25th January 1863 Gelligaer aged 3 years Mother Mary (Widow) abode Cefulrithdir?? Cefyn Y Brithdir?
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 June 15 21:12 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roy,  John Morgan 28 occ Contractor Father William Morgan (Dead)
Mary Lewis 23 abode Garthenor? Father William Lewis occ Farmer
6th January 1859 Bedwelty
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 13 June 15 14:37 BST (UK) »
Hi again Roy, last piece of the jigsaw :-

Marriage 15th June 1872 Trevethin

Thomas Rees 53 Widower occ Farmer abode Trevethin Father Watkin Rees occ Freeholder
Mary Morgan 44 Widow abode Gelligaer Father William Lewis occ Freeholder
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Re: Please help find Tir Jack-Gelligaer
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 13 June 15 15:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Keyboard
Well done you; brilliant result. I hope you don't mind me asking (trying to educate myself) but where did you find the marriage details? 

With regards to the 1861 census; where exactly were John Morgan, Mary and Elizabeth residing.  I can see Elizabeth was born in Ebbw Vale so I presume they are in the area some where.

"John Morgan 28 occ Contractor Father William Morgan (Dead)Mary Lewis 23 abode Garthenor? Father William Lewis occ Farmer 6th January 1859 Bedwelty"
Bedwellty covered a big area (was the church named?)

Best Regards, Roy
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