David Cartwright

[miche11eb]

I wonder if anyone can help me knock down the brick wall I keep hitting! My paternal great grandfather was David Cartwright bn 1862. I know he married Louisa Maggs on 29 Nov 1889 in Aston, Birmingham and was living at Marsh Lane, Erdington. Their marriage cert states his father was a coal miner by the name of Samuel Cartwright but was deceased at the time of David's marriage. I have info for David from this time but nothing beforehand ie his mothers name, any siblings etc anyone know what my next move should be please

[jim1]

In 1881 he's in lodgings in Stratford -on- Avon, also there is Louisa Maggs listed as neice to the head, William Purchase. David Cartwright gives his POB as Brierley Hill Staffs.
RG11; Piece: 3103; Folio: 8; Page: 8

[miche11eb]

Yeah I found him in 1881, sorry I should have said, can't find him in 1871 nor his father, Samuel though I have no dates for him either

[jim1]

There's no birth listed for a David Cartwright 1860-5 in the Brierley Hill Reg. District which indicates he's using another first name or Cartwright isn't the name he was born with. He could also have been illegitimate & not registered & made up a father's name which is going to make him difficult to find.
Are there any Cartwright witnesses on the marriage cert?

[miche11eb]

Really? Blimey! No there aren't any Cartwright witnesses, I have a Joseph S Manyon or Maryon and a John J Stephens. It states Samuel Cartwright (deceased) as father. I also know that David and Louisa had a daughter, my grandmother, in January 1889 and found my grandmothers birth with the surname Maggs (her mothers maiden name) but because I don't know David's mothers name I don't know where I can go with this.

[Ladyhawk]

His b/c would give you his mother’s name
Brierley Hill is in the registration district of Stourbridge

closest birth entries I could see FreeBMD

CARTWRIGHT David  Henry  Jun 1862 Stourbridge 6c 220

CARTWRIGHT David              Jun 1861 Stourbridge 6c 244

CARTWRIGHT David              Dec 1863 Stourbridge 6c 181

There's this marriage entry

Jun 1861 Stourbridge 6c 210
CARTWRIGHT Samuel 
Female names on same page
Ann CARNNIDGE
Lucy WATSON

There are a few death entries in Stourbridge for a Samuel Cartwright see FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

1871 David Cartwright age 10 Kingswinford inmate
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5R1-35M

Amended

Was just going to post marriage info. David Cartwright to Sarah Beddall which probably relates to this David - see Rosie has beaten me too it 

There’s this 1871 entry
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5TZ-5SH
David Cartwright grandson age 10 Kingswinford

[jim1]

I wonder if he's this one in 1871:
RG10; Piece: 3027; Folio: 111; Page: 6
It looks like the enumerator has crossed out all of the POB's & replaced them with Kingswinford. In this case what's crossed out is Brierley Hill.

[miche11eb]

Thank you both but I am at a loss as to how I can find the right David Cartwright as I have no other info ie no definite dob or mothers name

[miche11eb]

Oh no! I've just looked at the one I think you've listed, Jim, which states David Cartwright as an orphan, that's proper choked me up. Is there anyway I can find out for definite?