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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:34 BST (UK) »
Elimination??

Source   NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname   FITZPATRICK
Given Names   Lizzie
Year of Death   1883
Record Number   28
Record Type   M/I
Age   37
Location   Ngaruawahia Public C02.10

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I don't think this is her as she had children born in the 1890's, but perhaps her mother?
I found this on BMD website 1883/4886   Fitzpatrick   Lizzie      46Y  wonder how old she really was.

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:37 BST (UK) »

The attestation form [Image 19 of file] gives his mother's name as "Lizzie FITZPATRICK" born Ireland.   Mother:  Time in NZ - ??  (very difficult to decipher what this says) ?

 

It looks like it says over 40 years

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:44 BST (UK) »

I don't think this is her as she had children born in the 1890's, but perhaps her mother?
I found this on BMD website 1883/4886   Fitzpatrick   Lizzie      46Y  wonder how old she really was.

Appears that Lizzie was the wife of this Chappie:

FITZPATRICK On Tuesday 3rd inst. at Ngaruawahia, the beloved wife of T V Fitzpatrick. The funeral
will leave the railway wharf at 1 o’clock this day. [Waikato Times, Thur 5 Jul 1883].  His death notice states he was one of Waikato's settlers and died Nov 1883.

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:53 BST (UK) »
There is an Eliz,Fitzpatrick arriving in NZ in 14th March 1879
Fitzpatrick Eliz. aged 18 from Fermanagh general servant

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSY1-WQS

There is also a Cathe. Goodwin aged 18 general servant from Fermanagh on the same page

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:54 BST (UK) »

I don't think this is her as she had children born in the 1890's, but perhaps her mother?
I found this on BMD website 1883/4886   Fitzpatrick   Lizzie      46Y  wonder how old she really was.

Appears that Lizzie was the wife of this Chappie:

FITZPATRICK On Tuesday 3rd inst. at Ngaruawahia, the beloved wife of T V Fitzpatrick. The funeral
will leave the railway wharf at 1 o’clock this day. [Waikato Times, Thur 5 Jul 1883].  His death notice states he was one of Waikato's settlers and died Nov 1883.

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KHP

T V Fitzpatrick seems to be in the paper quite a bit.  He was a land agent in Ngaruawahia and I think his actual name is Thaddius Vicars.  I haven't been able to find out how or if he is related to Elizabeth at all.

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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 03:58 BST (UK) »
There is an Eliz,Fitzpatrick arriving in NZ in 14th March 1879
Fitzpatrick Eliz. aged 18 from Fermanagh general servant

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSY1-WQS

There is also a Cathe. Goodwin aged 18 general servant from Fermanagh on the same page

Cheers Janette

Perhaps they were friends.  Wonder if Cathe is a female or male.  Wish I knew Elizabeth's birth or death date.

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 04:01 BST (UK) »
There is also a     Jno Goodwin on the same ship
Jno Goodwin aged  23   Farm Labr from Fermanagh
and
Michl Fitzpatrick aged 22 Farm Labr from Fermanagh

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 04:02 BST (UK) »

Perhaps they were friends.  Wonder if Cathe is a female or male.  Wish I knew Elizabeth's birth or death date.

Cathe was a female

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Re: Look up Please - orphanage records
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 23 June 15 04:28 BST (UK) »
Adding, I know we don't know if Thaddeus Vicars Fitzpatrick of  Ngaruawahia   is related but look at the beautiful Irish name Bernhard O'Flaherty Fitzpatrick!

Nzbdms
1870/12737   Fitzpatrick    Mabel Ellen    Elizabeth Fanny   Thaddeus Vickers
1871/13706   Fitzpatrick    Vincent Joseph    Elizabeth Fanny   Thaddeus Vicars
1874/285           Fitzpatrick    Alice Mary    Elizabeth   Thadeus Vickers
1875/7526   Fitzpatrick    Bernhard O'Flaherty    Elizabeth Fanny    Thaddeus Vickers
1878/11595   Fitzpatrick    Edwin Vicars    Elizabeth Fanny   Thaddeus Vicars
1902/15376   Fitzpatrick    Grace Blossom    Elizabeth Fanny   Thaddeus Vicars

These birth records are a bit at odds with Thaddeus or Elizabeth being deceased in 1883
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)