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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 27 October 19 01:15 GMT (UK) »
You should be looking at the original surnames as Gaeilge/in Irish! The travellers had their own version of course but if they are Irish travellers and not gypsies then there should not be 'j,k,q,w,x,y,z' in the original name. E.g. king is normally mac an rí 'son of the King', Burke is 'de burca'. You should understand that names were anglofied and letters like v came from 'bh' etc. if you don't bother to look up the Irish alphabet then all this is is a guessing game.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 27 October 19 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Also traveller names change depending on the county, Ward is a huge one in connacht but in Munster it is not seen as a travellers name. Burke is seen as a traveller name in parts of munster but a very common surname in connacht with no traveller connection.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 27 October 19 06:52 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to be dumb - but can someone tell me the actual "definition" of a "Pav"???  What is a Pav - an Irish traveller?  is it a name/description which is accepted or not ?? 
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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 15:43 GMT (UK) »
After doing my Ancestry DNA it has opened up a whole new part of my heritage I never really knew existed. I have matches with not just Romany links but possible Irish travellers too.

I am relatively new too Romany/Irish traveller and searching which is not easy. As you can imagine I have a few surnames.

Melia-Co Mayo
Sharples- Co Galway
Oneill-Co Galway
Gehan-Co Antrim
Saunders-Co Mayo

Could any of these be Irish Travellers?

In U.K. around mostly Shropshire/Cheshire area names are

Parker-Shropshire
Simmons-Shropshire
Bradney-Shropshire
Jones-Shropshire
Smith-Cheshire
Twist-Cheshire
Pollard-Cheshire
Taylor-Cheshire

With so many DNA matches with multiple family names it’s mind blowing


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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have the names Purcell and Hunt both from the New Ross area in Co Wexford Michael Purcell has given his occupation as Tinker on his sons wedding certificate. Are Purcell or Hunt traveller/ tinker names.
I am a bit confused as I thought tinkers also moved from place to place but Michael Purcell had an address
Hope this makes sense
Thank you Carolyn
Hill,Griffiths,Davison,Hewitt,Foulkes, Flintshire
Hill, Assal,Thomas Cheshire/Flintshire
Brennan Queens county (Laois)
Hynnes Galway
Flood  Wicklow/Lancashire     Geogehan/Gahan Wicklow to Lancashire
Currie Monaghan/Scotland
Behan Kings and Kildare
Purcell Wexford/ co kilkenny
Hunt Wexford
Hoey Louth
Kean Ireland
Flannagan Kings County Offley
Leather Lancashire
Woodward Lancashire
Thomas Lancashire
Garnett lancashire
Haselden Lancashire
Singleton Lancashire

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #59 on: Friday 17 January 20 12:02 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ovs/

Census link lists people with occupation given as tinker.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #60 on: Friday 17 January 20 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Thank you for the reply very interesting so quite a lot of Tinkers must have lived in one place. The date I have for the marriage is 1868  showing him as father of groom  he is not on the census returns for 1901/11. His son Martin Purcell is the one who’s marriage I have but he came to England with his wife Mary and one daughter Annie the rest of his children including his son James (my gt grandfather) were born in England. All had labouring jobs except one who was a cobbler.
Thank for your interest
Hill,Griffiths,Davison,Hewitt,Foulkes, Flintshire
Hill, Assal,Thomas Cheshire/Flintshire
Brennan Queens county (Laois)
Hynnes Galway
Flood  Wicklow/Lancashire     Geogehan/Gahan Wicklow to Lancashire
Currie Monaghan/Scotland
Behan Kings and Kildare
Purcell Wexford/ co kilkenny
Hunt Wexford
Hoey Louth
Kean Ireland
Flannagan Kings County Offley
Leather Lancashire
Woodward Lancashire
Thomas Lancashire
Garnett lancashire
Haselden Lancashire
Singleton Lancashire

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #61 on: Monday 13 July 20 06:34 BST (UK) »
Hello,
New to these threads and not entirely certain I am in the right area. I recently learned some of my family's surnames on my maternal side and heard stories of a family member who was possibly a traveller or a gypsy. I am not certain of everyone's counties but I have information on a few.

Antrim, the names were Mullen, Gilpin
I also have ancestors with the surnames Hull, and Neal (changed from O'Neal) later. My grandfather (his mother was Neal) was born under the name Bentley but received his stepfather's last name of Butler.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 14:50 BST (UK) »
I understand Ayres is a gypsy surname, but is it Irish? Likewise Walsh and Troy.
Thanks
Ayres Brignell Cornwell Harvey Shipp  Stimpson Stubbings (all Cambs) Baumber Baxter Burton Ethards Proctor Stanton (all Lincs) Luffman (all counties)