Children and 2nd marriage of John Binks of Broughton?

[bugbear]

Why would you expect that everything is on "TROVE" It is just a Newspaper archive? Obituary or notice of death by the undertaker? Obits are a paid classified service, unless person is of note and these are found in General news. Some newspapers do have an Obits section however.

Apologies - the reason I was very much expecting newspaper coverage is because the Binks family were both wealthy and publicly prominent.

John Binks' parents, Thomas[1841-1926] and Mary[1837-1921] [nee Hetherington] Binks essentially founded the dairy industry in the area. Most of the weddings of their (11) children are written up (not merely announced) extensively in the local papers (great if you want to know what the bride was wearing ... ). Even Thomas and Mary's golden wedding got a large feature.

John Binks himself was Alderman, JP, and Mayor.

The death of his first wife, Susanna [Wray], got an extensive column, and the death of John Binks himself got several mentions, both at time of death and burial, e.g. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16583909

I therefore put the lack of a newspaper mention of his second marriage as likely down to my failure in searching. I would very much expect one to exist.

 BugBear

[majm]

Yes,  I agree with Neil,  Trove is fantastic, but it is not the source of 'everything'....   

So, here's some electoral roll information from 1903 and 1913.   Of course, it was not yet compulsory to enrol, but to be eligible to enrol you needed to be a British Subject, (either born or naturalised) aged 21 years of age or over, and residing in the district.   

NSW 1903 Electoral Roll, ILLAWARRA,
 polling at Broughton Village
All with the surname BINKS
Hester Ann, Broughton Village, domestic duties (dd)
Jane, Broughton Village, dd
John, Broughton Creek,  farm labourer
Louisa, Broughton Village, dd
Martha, Broughton Village, dd
Mary, Broughton Village, dd
Rachel, Broughton Village dd
Thomas, senior, Broughton Village, farmer

Polling at Berry
Alfred Noble BINKS, of Berry, farmer

Polling at Cambewarra
ALL with surname BINKS
Isabelle, Cambewarra, dd
Mary Ann, Cambewarra, dd
Thomas, senior Cambewarra, farmer
Thomas, junior, Cambewarra, labourer
Wesley, Cambewarra, farm labourer

NSW ER 1913 ALLOWRIE,
polling at Broughton Village
ALL with surname as BINKS
Louisa, senior, Broughton Village, dd
Louisa, junior, Broughton Village, dd
Mary, Broughton Village, dd
Thirza May, Broughton Village, dd
Thomas, Broughton Village, farmer

Polling at Cambewarra
Mary Ann Matilda, Cambewarra, dd
Thomas, Cambewarra, farmer

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

Births

BINKS, Alfred J.
Father John
Mother Susannah
At Berry
1916
Reg. 39371

BINKS, Wray
Father John
Mother Susannah
At Berry
1917
Reg 496601

Sue
Sue

[cando]

Bugbear please scroll down to The Very Important Bit

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368728.0

And

Regardless of whether or not the information helped,.............

Cando

[bugbear]

Death of James W H Giles, first husband of Amelia E;

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15518334

Jun 22, 1914, aged 55

Also 2 weddings of their children (haven't found Robert J's wedding)

Edna B Giles to Carl F Corbett, 1926 Sydney
Hilda Marjorie Giles to Harry Campbell, 1929, Sydney

    BugBear

[bugbear]

Wow. My thanks to all who have helped my in this quest.

The reason I was checking the Binks's family was to try to work
out why a "John Binks" was the executor of my Great Uncle's
will; he was George Edward Womack, born in Norfolk, England,
and died 1915, Gallipoli.

Now, with all the background and context you have helped
me assemble to guide my searching, I have (finally) found this:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article102410550

It may not be the "whole story", but it's a very substantial
part of it, and I am grateful for the assistance in finding it.

EDIT;

This may well be the only known photograph of George Edward Womack:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15614163

(extracted and attached)

  BugBear

[bugbear]

Here's most of what I [and you] have found:

                  Descendant Report for Binks, Thomas

Generation 1

1.    Binks, Thomas.

      Thomas was born calculated about 1841. He died on 1926-02-16 in
      Gerringong at the age of about 85 years, 1 month. He married
      Hetherington, Mary on 1865-03-01 in Gerringong.

      Children of Hetherington, Mary and Binks, Thomas

      + 2 i. Binks, John. John was born in 1866 in Kiama. He died on
         1929-09-11 in Sedgeford Farm.

       3 ii. Binks, Wesley. Wesley was born in 1867 in Kiama.

       4 iii. Binks, Jane. Jane was born in 1869 in Kiama.

       5 iv. Binks, Thomas. Thomas was born in 1871 in Kiama.

       6 v. Binks, Mary. Mary was born in 1872 in Kiama. She died before
         1921.

       7 vi. Binks, Alfred Noble. Alfred Noble was born in 1874 in
         Shoalhaven.

       8 vii. Binks, Rachel. Rachel was born in 1876 in Shoalhaven.

       9 viii. Binks, Martha. Martha was born in 1877 in Shoalhaven.

       10 ix. Binks, Esther Ann. Esther Ann was born in 1879 in Shoalhaven.

       11 x. Binks, Louie. Louie was born in 1880 in Shoalhaven.

       12 xi. Binks, Thirza M. Thirza M was born in 1884 in Shoalhaven.

Generation 2

2.    Binks, John.

      John was born in 1866 in Kiama. He died on 1929-09-11 in Sedgeford
      Farm at the age of 63 years, 8 months. He was buried on 1929-09-13
      in Gerringong. He was the son of Binks, Thomas and Hetherington,
      Mary. He married Wray, Susanna on 1913-06-25 in Berry. He also
      married Carnell, Amelia Elizabeth on 1924-02-28 in Rockdale.

      Children of Wray, Susanna and Binks, John

       13 i. Binks, Alfred John DeVere. Alfred John DeVere was born in 1916
         in Berry.

       14 ii. Binks, Wray. Wray was born on 1917-11-04 in Cole Green (house).

3.    Binks, Wesley.

      Wesley was born in 1867 in Kiama. He was the son of Binks, Thomas
      and Hetherington, Mary. He married Maxwell, Bella about 1900 in
      Nowra.

4.    Binks, Jane.

      Jane was born in 1869 in Kiama. She was the daughter of Binks,
      Thomas and Hetherington, Mary.

5.    Binks, Thomas.

      Thomas was born in 1871 in Kiama. He was the son of Binks, Thomas
      and Hetherington, Mary.

6.    Binks, Mary.

      Mary was born in 1872 in Kiama. She died before 1921 at the age of
      less than 49 years. She was the daughter of Binks, Thomas and
      Hetherington, Mary. She married Eaton, John K about 1987 in Nowra.

7.    Binks, Alfred Noble.

      Alfred Noble was born in 1874 in Shoalhaven. He was the son of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary. He married Cashman, Louisa J
      in 1908 in Sydney.

8.    Binks, Rachel.

      Rachel was born in 1876 in Shoalhaven. She was the daughter of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary. She married Thompson, Irvine
      J in 1909 in Berry.

9.    Binks, Martha.

      Martha was born in 1877 in Shoalhaven. She was the daughter of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary. She married Strong, James M
      in 1911 in Berry.

10.   Binks, Esther Ann.

      Esther Ann was born in 1879 in Shoalhaven. She was the daughter of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary. She married Emery, Thomas A
      in 1904 in Berry.

11.   Binks, Louie.

      Louie was born in 1880 in Shoalhaven. She was the daughter of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary.

12.   Binks, Thirza M.

      Thirza M was born in 1884 in Shoalhaven. She was the daughter of
      Binks, Thomas and Hetherington, Mary. She married Strong, Robert E
      in 1914 in Berry.

Generation 3

13.   Binks, Alfred John DeVere.

      Alfred John DeVere was born in 1916 in Berry. He is the son of
      Binks, John and Wray, Susanna.

14.   Binks, Wray.

      Wray was born on 1917-11-04 in Cole Green (house). He is the son
      of Binks, John and Wray, Susanna.

[majm]

The NSW State Records Office, online index for Deceased Estates:
G E Womack of Broughton Village, DD 7 August 1915,  Duty Paid 29 April 1916.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-deceased-estates-and-related-records/indexes-to-deceased-estate-files   (not all the contents of all the files were retained when these were removed from NSW Supreme Court to the State Archives, there was some culling of documentation). 

Wow. My thanks to all who have helped my in this quest.

The reason I was checking the Binks's family was to try to work out why a "John Binks" was the executor of my Great Uncle's will; he was George Edward Womack, born in Norfolk, England,
and died 1915, Gallipoli.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8860017

ADD
NSW 1913 ER ALLOWRIE polling Broughton Village
George Edward WOMACK, of Broughton Village, labourer.

There were 98 enrolled at that polling place in 1913.

Embarkation Roll mentions T Binks  http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_LARGE/RCDIG1067092/RCDIG1067092--216-.JPG

Cheers,  JM

[bugbear]

The NSW State Records Office, online index for Deceased Estates:
G E Womack of Broughton Village, DD 7 August 1915,  Duty Paid 29 April 1916.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-deceased-estates-and-related-records/indexes-to-deceased-estate-files   (not all the contents of all the files were retained when these were removed from NSW Supreme Court to the State Archives, there was some culling of documentation). 

Wow. My thanks to all who have helped my in this quest.

The reason I was checking the Binks's family was to try to work out why a "John Binks" was the executor of my Great Uncle's will; he was George Edward Womack, born in Norfolk, England,
and died 1915, Gallipoli.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8860017

ADD
NSW 1913 ER ALLOWRIE polling Broughton Village
George Edward WOMACK, of Broughton Village, labourer.

There were 98 enrolled at that polling place in 1913.

Embarkation Roll mentions T Binks  http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_LARGE/RCDIG1067092/RCDIG1067092--216-.JPG

Cheers,  JM

Thanks for all that - I'd already found most of it, Australia is pretty darn good at remembering the Anzacs, including his full service record, online and free.

It was his relationship with the Binks that I couldn't work out.

But following that trail  (with the help of rootschat  ) told a whole extra story.

 BugBear