Author Topic: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire  (Read 7426 times)

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 20:45 BST (UK) »
In 1881 she is simply listed as 'Annie' bc.1872.   In 1891 she is bc.1873, in 1901 bc.1875.   The one consistency is that she was born in Liverpool, not Stranraer.

Her father was Henry McMurdo (as already stated) - her sister Susan's birth was registered as Susan J. McMurdo Dec.1866 Liverpool, brother Henry (who died 1872) registered Sept.1869 Liverpool.   Cannot find Grace's birth at all, nor her parents marriage.

However, Liverpool Crew Lists show her father Henry was bc.1842/3 Wigton - one record has Pt. 'something' so I'm wondering if this was Portpatrick?

As family were Catholic it makes them a little harder to find.

This could well be the parents marriage:

Henry McMurdy and one of the possible spouses is a Susannah Robbins in Mar.qtr.1862 Liverpool.

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 21:51 BST (UK) »
The Crew List in 1863 has Henry McMurdy 21 born Port William which is in Mochrum Parish. Later he is recorded as McMurdo.

There is a Henry McMurdy age 3 born Mochrum in 1841 Glentriplock, Mochrum with father James 30 and mother Mary 20(b Ireland. He is 12 in 1851 again b Mochrum at Hill Top, Leswalt with mother Mary 34, James absent! Age seems a little young however compared to Crewlists?

Henry McMurdy did marry Susannah Robbins at Liverpool Registry Office in 1862 on Lancashire BMD

Interesting although not totally convincing.

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 09:59 BST (UK) »
Everything point's to Grace being born in Liverpool if this is the same family  ???. Was Patrick named as her father on her marriage certificate ?..There are a few Liverpool Catholic baptisms with the parent's named Henrici McMurdo Susannah Robinson /Robbins ..Also a burial for another son James Henry McMurdo died 1880 address 13,Cemaes ..
A marriage for Susan McMurdo in 1886 to Thomas Dwyer they are both in the 1891 census

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 10:29 BST (UK) »
I have a census entry Liverpool, (I've saved the entry, but not the year duh) but I'll go and find it again if necessary)  Added Census was 1901!

37 Beacon Street Liverpool.

Patrick Murphy Head  - Stoker & ?? steamship. B Ireland
Grace Murphy   Wife     Born Liverpool
Margaret   "      Daur   
Patrick      "      Son
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SUSANN?  McMURDO. - Marr.   Visitor  b Ireland         

I'll go back and have another look and add ages!  If these are the right people, let me know and  I can PM you the page!     

I'll have to do that tomorrow for you now though, as I am expecting someone arriving shortly, their planes been delayed with the bad weather, so putting them up here tonight.  Need to fix them something to eat! 

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 10:41 BST (UK) »
I think this is the right one. Her husband died in Australia in 1910, and I can't find a 1911 census.
I think my son in law must be wrong about Stranraer - but need birth cert for proof. I think the visitor is her Mother.
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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 10:51 BST (UK) »
Ok, I can send you that 1901 census in the morning, grandchildren asleep in the bedroom where my PC is  and I suspect there'll be a knock on the door any minute. I'm on my iPad on the moment, and can't change the name of the image on it, so will have to send it in the morning! 

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 11:14 BST (UK) »
I believe that Henry McMurdy/McMurdo was born in Mochrum to James McMurdy andMary McAnally.
They also had a daughter Grace Hannah McMurdy born 20 Feb 1848 and baptised 12 March 1848 at St Joseph's, Stranraer. I assume Henry named his own daughter after her. This may explain the Stranraer confusion?

Mary McAnally died 11 April 1858 age 40 in Stranraer with son Henry McMurdo the informant. She was still married but I cannot find husband James after 1841?

I am still puzzled as to why we cannot find the birth record of Grace!

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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 12:08 BST (UK) »
Ok, I can send you that 1901 census in the morning, grandchildren asleep in the bedroom where my PC is  and I suspect there'll be a knock on the door any minute. I'm on my iPad on the moment, and can't change the name of the image on it, so will have to send it in the morning! 

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That's okay I found it, just can't find her in 1911
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Re: Looking for Grace Hannah MCMURDO b abt 1875 Stranraer, Wigtownshire
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 15:42 BST (UK) »
If you look for Grace H Murphy b Liverpool 1875 you will find her on the 1911 census no sign of the mother now  ???