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Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« on: Wednesday 15 July 15 21:51 BST (UK) »
Dorothy Boasman married Edward Graham Northing in 1936, Patrington Yorkshire

Edward Graham was killed in the war

Dorothy Northing married Alfred Eccleshall Jun qtr 1946 Hull

Child born 1948, mothers maiden name given as Boasman

Dorothy dies 2002 -- but her death seems to be indexed under both Northing and Eccleshall
Dec qtr 2002 East Yorks Vol 5411M page ER1M
birth date 20 Aug 1916

Anyone know why it is indexed under two names?
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 21:57 BST (UK) »
Did she stay with Alfred Eccleshall until her or his death, could she have left him and reverted back to  calling herself Northing. If so perhaps that would explain the two entries, as she would have been recorded by her legal name and the one she was known as.
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 22:04 BST (UK) »
Alfred probably died Jun qtr 1988

I don't know if they stayed together untill Alfred's death - in fact i know very little about her at all
My connection is through the Northing side
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 22:23 BST (UK) »
When you register a death Information required by the Registrar is the Full Name of the Deceased, including Aliases and Maiden Name( if applicable). So it appears that both Northing and Eccleshall were entered on the certificate, and accounts for the death being indexed under both names.


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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 22:25 BST (UK) »

There is a probate entry for a Dorothy Eccleshall who died 14th December 2002.


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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 22:31 BST (UK) »
yes, have just found that, thanks
And it is only indexed under Eccleshall, not Northing

Not sure i want to spend the £10 to satisfy my curiosity just at the moment
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 July 15 23:34 BST (UK) »
Neither document may explain........

Information on death certs is informant-driven.

The death cert may not say that she was the "widow of"

If she died in a nursing home, they may have had both surnames recorded and if the home manager was the informant, both names may have been given (as Stan mentions)

so you could lose £10 on the will and/or £9.25 for the death cert
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 July 15 13:30 BST (UK) »
True. Informants do mis recall maiden names, dob place of birth, and all sorts of other details.
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Re: Why would a death be indexed under two surnames?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 July 15 13:42 BST (UK) »
But deaths are not indexed under maiden names, so a mis-remembered maiden name would not matter

It just seems odd that she was a Northing for about 10 years (5 yrs of marriage plus 5 yrs of widowhood) and an Eccleshall for 56 years (42 yrs of marriage plus 14 yrs of widowhood), yet for some reason the Northing name was entered as an alternative surname on the death certificate

I have not been able to trace any children from her Northing marriage, so its not as if one of her children accidentally gave his own surname rather than his mother's when registering the death
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Northing - all