Author Topic: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES  (Read 30957 times)

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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 30 August 15 13:24 BST (UK) »
Can't see anything yet for Rees, but will keep nosing !

Useful link while I was browsing to Breconshire MIs http://www.powysfhs.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Breconshire_Master_MI_Index.pdf

The sky now seems undecided here...looks brighter down the valley but not looking north, so more rain again I expect
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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 30 August 15 15:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mar, love the link, found several of the Davies clan (though not 'my' 1837 Thomas or Mary 1851). Mary's 2nd husband Thomas and his wife Margaret, plus some of their children are there, and the Rees and Mary - and all in the same area if the 'Ref' is anything to go on  :-\   
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 30 August 15 19:23 BST (UK) »
Didn't think about the ref. If it relates to burial plot, does that mean the same number means the same plot and all related??
18 - Howell Davies bur 1927; Mary Davies bur 1933; William Davies bur 1924;
41 – Sarah Ann Davies 1945;
49 – William T Davies 1902; Winifred Davies 1901;
51 – John Davies 1864; Sarah Davies 1902; Sarah M Davies 1896; William Davies 1895; William Davies 1906;
59 – John Davies 1928;
60 - Gwenllian Davies 1933; John Davies 1906;
79 - Eliza Davies 1937; Ethel Davies 1936;  Gertrude Davies 1952; William Davies 1912;
80 – John Davies 1928; Thomas Davies 1896;
81 - Anne Davies 1883; David Davies 1881; Mary Davies 1864; Mary Anne Davies 1942
83 - Annie Davies 1934; Benjamin Davies 1956;
86 - Enoch Davies 1927;  Mary Jane Davies 1950;
100 - Gwenllian Davies 1909;  John Davies 1891;
101 - John Davies no date; William Davies 1903;
143 - Dilys Davies no date; Penry Davies no date; Stephen Davies no date;  Susan Davies 1980
238 - Anne Davies 1849; Anne Davies 1855; John Davies no date;
239 -infant Davies no date; Howell Davies 1892; Mary Davies 1872
240 - Mary Anne Davies 1885; Mary Davies 1858; Edward Davies 1879; infant Davies no date
274 - Rees Davies 1821;  Mary Davies 1825;
276 – Margaret Davies 1901; Thomas Davies 1889;
277 -child Davies 1857; Ann Davies no date; Charles R Davies 1877; David W Davies 1857;  Margaret Davies no date; Rees P Davies 1862; William Davies no date.
285 - Anne Davies 1916; Sarah Davies 1881; Thomas Davies 1870;
286 – Thomas Davies 1870;
289 -Elizabeth Davies 1824; H Davies no date;
293 - Jane Davies 1850; John Davies 1811; John Davies 1854;
294 - John Davies 1788;
295 – William Davies 1893; Ann Davies 1894
304 – Rees Davies 1847; Thomas Davies 1846; William Davies 1846;
311 - Gwenllian Davies no date; Rees Davies no date; William Davies 1827; William Davies 1825;
313 - John Davies 1837;
315 – Sarah Davies 1865; Thomas Davies no date;
318 - Emma Davies 1891; Thomas Davies no date;
329 - Ann Davies 1840; Jennet Davies 1814; William Davies 1803
336 - John Davies no date;  Gwenllian Davies no date; Kate Davies 1890;
339 - David Davies 1890; Sarah Ann Davies 1891;
342 - Edward Davies 1885;
376 – Stanley Davies no date;
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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #75 on: Sunday 30 August 15 20:20 BST (UK) »
How did you do that Mar??

It was the 274, 276 and 277 i spotted.... 274 is Rees and Mary, possible parents of Thomas b1774, 276 is Margaret, the 2nd wife of the other Thomas (who had all the money!) and Thomas, though he died in 1886 not '89, and 277 is his son William, wife Ann and a couple of their children (not sure about Margaret, Ann or 'child').

If the ref has any bearing on the plot is it just coincidence that Rees and Mary are alongside the others - or can they be related?  But where are Thomas 1774 - parish clerk for all those years and owner of 10 houses - and his wife Mary ???
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....


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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #76 on: Sunday 30 August 15 20:36 BST (UK) »
My eyes went a bit crossed... I used 'find' for Llanfrynach and listed them by number, but if the reference is grave, there seemed to be quite a lot in some graves and I always thought there was a limit on how many could go in?
You are right as the MIs do not reflect the ones we know are there, suspect this list isn't complete. ;D
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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #77 on: Sunday 30 August 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
My eyes went a bit crossed... I used 'find' for Llanfrynach and listed them by number...

And then typed them up??? I thought you must know a magic way to extract them from the pdf!! Thanks for all your efforts.

Strange for the possible graves to be so close though.... I guess my Thomas and Mary could be in 275  :D
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 30 August 15 20:53 BST (UK) »
Wonder if there's a plot map somewhere, though as you mentioned before, a lot of the older headstones are propped up along the outer walls so may have moved anyway  :-\
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #79 on: Sunday 30 August 15 20:55 BST (UK) »
PS i thought there was a limit too though i have one plot in Cathays cemetery in Cardiff with 5 known burials. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Marriage licence, Llanfrynach, 1834 - Thomas DAVIES to Mary DAVIES
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 30 August 15 21:36 BST (UK) »
think it would depend how deep the grave was to start with which would depend on how many it was bought for. I've transcribed burial records for a  parish in Cornwall where the depth & size of the grave was also noted. Some of them were 10 feet deep, some 8, some 5 (from memory), some single, some double. But not one mentioned six feet deep!

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb