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RC Registers to check so....

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Rachel

Don't give up just yet 

It"s just for us to help you need to give us all the facts that you have.

So I take it Connemara is a presumption not a fact.

So was Margaret still alive in 1911 ~ Did the census give an area in Galway.

On other forums being 'thrown out' and other family going to America.

Again is this fact or a story.

If fact are these people siblings of Margaret's ?

If fact do you have names and dates ?

Lastly was Henry's occupation of tailor on Margaret's marriage cert.

Oh another question ~ I need the names of Margaret's children in birth order.

Tara

[timothypickles]

The 1911 census in England states she was born in Galway, I have it from my mother that she was from Connemara. She was 17 when she married and her marriage cert from 1878 states her father to be Hugh King, tailor (deceased). I do not know of any siblings for her but I was told that some relatives went to Chicago and Canada.  Her children to Thomas Murray were Mary bn 1879, John Thomas bn1881, Annie bn 1884, Joseph bn1887, Thomas Francis bn 1889, Margaret bn1891, Clare bn1894 - all born Middlesbrough.

I know all about her life from 1878 onwards and will be grateful and amazed if you manage to shed any light on her family and early life in Ireland for me.

[taramcdsmall]

Good Morning

Interesting that she didn't pass the name Hugh on to any of her sons !

What were her husband's parent's names ?

I ask this to see did she use any naming pattern ~ and it turn to see can we make an educated guess as to her Mother's name !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

The timeline is the main thing going against you.

Civil Registration only began here in 1864.

Looking at the deaths to start with.

You say that Hugh was dead by 1878.

There is only one death of that name in Galway between 1864 and 1878, and it's for 1864 ~ a Hugh King b 1804.

To be honest I don't think this is your Hugh as if they were a Connemara family then I would expect to see the death registered in Clifden.

Again, he could have died between 1861 (when Margaret was born) and 1864 when civil registration began, so you won't see a death for him OR he could have died between 1864 and 1878 and the death simply wasn't registed; this was still common for the time, even though it was a requirement by law.

Next I usually look at GV but Hugh's occupation makes this tricky.

If he was a farmer then it's quite likely he would show on the GV but it depends on the tailors situation as to whether he would or not.

Only one Hugh King shows on Galway's GV and that's one who's part responsible for paying the rents on over 100 acres; this doesn't sound like your Hugh.

Next then I look at petty session and prison records.

There are a lot for a Hugh King but I'm afraid that he was a fisherman from the Claddagh, so again not your chap.

I've looked at the census to see if the name has carried on or the occupation into possible siblings of Margaret's.

There is a Bartly King as a tailor in Market Street Clifden.

I'm not sure that this chap is worth following up on, he didn't name any of his children Hugh then again neither did Margaret.

This Bartly had a shop, and was a draper as well as a master tailor, so had some standing, this doesn't tie in with your family story of getting 'thrown out'.

So, lastly this leaves looking at the RC registers that have come online.

Salthill, Rahoon, Spiddal, Moycullen, Oughterard, Killannin, Lettermullen, Rosmuc, Ross, Kilbride, Moyrus, Roundstone, Omey, Ballinakill.

You are going to need to go through the baptisms for the churches one by one.

The first three I have listed are more towards Galway City but I have seen Connemara baptisms in them so they are worth a try as they are near to the 'border'.

Anyway, go through them one by one, I suggest trying the years 1859 to 1862.

It might seem like a big undertaking but it's your last option.

Just take your time and be patient.

Good Luck

Tara

[timothypickles]

Thanks Tara for taking the time to look at this for me.

I will let you know if I find anything ☺

[wivenhoe]

You have a marriage certificate, Thomas MURRAY / Margaret KING 1878.

Can you please list all the information on the document....eveytthing please....not not leave out anything.