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James Gillies
« on: Sunday 02 August 15 17:21 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with birth place and date for James Gillies 1877. His parents were Robert Gillies and Ann or Annie Cameron.
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 August 15 19:43 BST (UK) »
There are 6 matches for that name and date on http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 August 15 19:55 BST (UK) »
Hi ,

Is this the parents marriage ?
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 15 21:16 BST (UK) »
Yes I beleive this is the parents marriage.
James married Jeanie Wyllie on 23/02/1907 and he was listed as staying at Haspielaw near Hamilton at time of marriage. His father Robert died 1945 and is burried at Lossiemouth.
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 15 21:47 BST (UK) »
Yes I beleive this is the parents marriage.
James married Jeanie Wyllie on 23/02/1907 and he was listed as staying at Haspielaw near Hamilton at time of marriage. His father Robert died 1945 and is burried at Lossiemouth.

They fairly got about!

Where was Jeanie Wyllie from?

(are you the bookseller BTW?)
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 15 21:56 BST (UK) »
My grandmother Jeanie Wyllie was from Ochiltree. She is listed as Jeanie on the record of marriage I found but my father's marriage certificate lists her as Jane.
I used to be a bookseller but I sold my business and retired 4 years ago. I am guessing yo may have been a customer or I have met you at a Book Fair?
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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 15 22:43 BST (UK) »
Have you found them on any census records?

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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 August 15 02:58 BST (UK) »
Found the couple on 1881 and 1891 census but they didn't have a son James??

In 1881 - they had a John (b.8/6/1876 Drainie, Moray) 4
                               Jane 2   (born 1878 Duffus)
                               Robert 1 (born 1879 Duffus)

1891 - children Robert 11, William L. 8, Maggie Ann 5, Alex. Grigor 1 plus nephew Hugh Cameron 11 (son John is working as a servant on a farm)

Robert bc.1857 Aberdeen, Annie bc.1857 Elgin/Dallas?, Moray.

1881/1891/1901 show no James Gillies - so, it looks like son John changed his name to James between 1901 and 1907.

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Re: James Gillies
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 August 15 08:51 BST (UK) »
Annette
Thanks for that. I had already found the census record you have given me and did not find James listed.  I am fairly new to family history research and had not considered a name change. As there are no James listed in the 1901 census this seems to be the most likely conclusion.

You mention John working on a farm. Was the farm name listed?

I have a copy of the statuary marriage record for the marriage of James/John's father Robert Gillies marrying Ann Cameron. Robert's father is listed as Joseph Gillies and his mother is listed as Ann Gillies M.S. Asher (deceased) but I have a copy of Old Parish register which lists Robert being born the lawful son of son of John Gillies and Ann Macbeth. Should I presume them that John also changed his name to Joseph and he was married twice i.e. to Ann MacBeth and Ann Asher? How could I work out which Ann was Robert's mother?  Maybe this is obvious to an experienced researche but I am a bit confused. Any help would be appreciated.
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