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Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« on: Wednesday 12 August 15 10:45 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the birth of Mary Harding who came from Red Villa, Monmouthshire - see below:

I have found the following details, but am still confused and hope that you can help sort it out.

1871

Mary Harding
Age 17
Scholar
born S Wales, Glamorgan, Wales
Limpley Stoke, Wiltshire
RG10 1923 f102 p6

Marriage 2q 1878 Melksham 5a 201 Frederick Pepler & Mary Harding


1881

Frederick Pepler Head M 25 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Mary Pepler Wife F 22 Red Villa, Monmouthshire, England

RG 11 2048 f 99 p32

1901

14 Westmead Lane, Chippenham, Wilts

Jacob Hancock, Head, 54, Carter for Coal Merchant, Glos Wotton Under Edge
Mary Hancock, Wife, 42, Cloth Weaver, South Wales
Laura Pepler, Step Daug, 18, Milk Factory, Wilts Trowbridge
Fred Pepler, Stepson, 17, Cloth Factory Cutter, Wilts Bradford
Herbert Pepler, Stepson, 14, Brewery Hand, Trowbridge
Walter Hancock, Son, 10, Chippenham
Florence Hancock, Daughter, 8, Chippenham
Wilfred Hancock, Son, 4, Chippenham
Lilly Hancock, Daughter, 3, Chippenham
Ernest Hancock, Son, 1, Chippenham

RG13 1920 F54 P3

Where is Red Villa? - or did the 1881 Census Enumerator enter the wrong birthplace?

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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 11:01 BST (UK) »
Further information that may help in the search.

Frederick Pepler died 1q 1886 32 Melksham 5a 90 and I believe that Mary Pepler was living with Jacob Hancock in 1891 - not found that information yet.

Jacob Hancock's first wife Elizabeth Wilkins died 2q 1888 Chippenham 5a 43

Hancock Mary 53 died 4q 1910 Chippenham 5a 35

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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 11:30 BST (UK) »
Could it be a mis-transcription of Redwick?

"REDWICK, a chapelry in the parish of Magor, lower division of Caldicot hundred, county Monmouth, 7 miles S.E. of Newport, its post town, and 12 from Chepstow. The village, which is small, is situated on the Bristol Channel."
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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 11:31 BST (UK) »
Could this be her in 1861 Glos?  Quite a random selection of people  :-\

Samuel Amos 39 tailor
Mary Davis 6 visitor
Mary Harding 7 visitor born Monmouthshire
William Britton 16 lodger
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 11:41 BST (UK) »
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I believe that Mary Pepler was living with Jacob Hancock in 1891 - not found that information yet.

Here's a Jacob with some Pepler boys

1891 Chippenham

Jacob Hancock 44
Mary Hancock 34
Frederick Pepler 7 stepson
Herbert Pepler 4 stepson
Walter Hancock son 10 months
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 12:02 BST (UK) »
Thatīs the right census in 1891 Milliepede


It could Redwick - I also thought "What does Red Villa sound like in the Welsh language?" 
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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 12:24 BST (UK) »
What does the handwritten version of "Red Villa" look like?
Could it be easily confused for "redwick" or "Red Villa"?
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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 13:02 BST (UK) »
I don't have access to the 1871 Census RG10 1923 f102 p6 to see how thw Name Looks like. :(

Maybe someone can check it for me?

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Re: Where & when was Mary Harding born?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 August 15 13:59 BST (UK) »
But I thought it was on the 1881 census?

1881

Frederick Pepler Head M 25 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Mary Pepler Wife F 22 Red Villa, Monmouthshire, England

RG 11 2048 f 99 p32

Where is Red Villa? - or did the 1881 Census Enumerator enter the wrong birthplace?

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