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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 September 15 05:18 BST (UK) »
Many many thanks for your replies everyone! Greatly appreciated.

Ann Baker - thank you for your suggestions, both of which I hadn't thought of. I didn't know about the change in churches. I will continue searching births etc to see if Thomas was indeed illegitimate.

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to search for me :) I will keep the information on file in case I need it in future.

Thanks again!
Renfrewshire: MORRISON, LAUCHLAN, DUNLOP, TYRELL, HOLMES, COLQUHUON, PEACOCK, CRAIG, GIBSON, ADAM, GARRETT

Lanarkshire: MUIR/MOORE, URE, BEATON

Argyllshire: McGREGOR, MORRISON

Aberdeenshire: WILLIAMSON, HENDERSON, MOIR

Inverness-shire: FOX

Kincardineshire: REID, PATERSON, REITH, DAVIDSON

England: GLAISTER, GRAHAM, GURD

Ireland: TYRELL, RAMSAY, GURD

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 September 15 10:50 BST (UK) »
On the 1851 census living 15, Barr Street, Greenock is a Thomas Morrison lodging with the Wilkie's.  Think this might be Thomas's sister/mother?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYQ3-BXT

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North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 September 15 21:55 BST (UK) »
I have contacted a professional genealogist in Paisley who has very kindly looked up Thomas Morrison's information (including his parents).
The genealogist believes that the Margaret Peacock and Alexander Morrison are NOT the one on Ancestry. They couldn't find any marriage certificate for them or a birth for Thomas.

Basically, unfortunately, this is going to be a brick wall for me. Being weavers they didn't have alot of money so probably didn't keep records, wills, etc other ways of finding them. It's pre 1855 so they didn't have to either.

It's so frustrating and sad :( (as its our direct line and I wanted to get a bit further than this)
Renfrewshire: MORRISON, LAUCHLAN, DUNLOP, TYRELL, HOLMES, COLQUHUON, PEACOCK, CRAIG, GIBSON, ADAM, GARRETT

Lanarkshire: MUIR/MOORE, URE, BEATON

Argyllshire: McGREGOR, MORRISON

Aberdeenshire: WILLIAMSON, HENDERSON, MOIR

Inverness-shire: FOX

Kincardineshire: REID, PATERSON, REITH, DAVIDSON

England: GLAISTER, GRAHAM, GURD

Ireland: TYRELL, RAMSAY, GURD

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 September 15 15:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Does Broomlands Street, Paisley have any significance? In 1841 there's an Alexander Morrison age 78 at number 45 and also at number 45 (shows as two entries on FindMyPast) there's a Thomas age 4 with other 'Morrisons'...I think I'd want to have a look at the original census.
Jen
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir


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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 September 15 17:09 BST (UK) »
I'm with Jennywren on this one. And I still think you are with the right family.

Mark you I'm no professional genealogist  ;D ,just an enthusiastic nosey amateur but-
I'd have a look at the original Censuses.
Thomas provided the parental and maternal information himself at the time of this 1859 wedding- so he certainly thought of Alexander Morrison and Margaret Peacock as his parents. Maybe that was what he'd been told :) . But I still think that he was the illegitimate grandchild of the couple.

BTW- I've looked at his original marriage Jennywren and Thomas's address at marriage is 64 Broomlands Street.
I tried to look on SP at the Thomas Morrison living with the Wilkie family on the 1851 Census  (found by Jennnywren) but unfortunately  ::) the image cannot be viewed ! But I don't think they are in Greenock - I think they are still in Paisley - there was a Barr Street at that time in Paisley.
As Jen discovered the family the 15 year old Thomas Morrison is with are:
 Neil Wilkie and Margaret Morrison - there are also 3 children (I narrowed this down on Familysearch) Daniel born circa 1840, Margaret (1844) and Alexr (1846)   Note the names of the first daughter and second son - Margaret after grandmother Margaret Peacock  and Alexander after grandfather Alexander Morrison perhaps  :-\ . All conjecture at this stage but the pieces of the jigsaw are not all lost !

Looby :)

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 07:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks loobylooayr and jennywren :)

Have already got those census's, the 1841 one that has a Thomas aged 4, the parents are George and Margaret with children William age 8, Margaret age 6 and Mary age 1.

Theres also another census with a Thomas Morrison aged 9 in 1841. He lives with an Elizabeth aged 16 Ann age 14 and Alexander aged 12. Elizabeth and Ann are flax spinners.

Broomlands is of some significance - Thomas was living at 64 Broomlands St at the time of his marriage.

I do find it strange that there is an Alexander Morrison and Margaret Peacock in Paisley just a few years before Thomas was born and he has listed them as his parents. There MUST be a connection somehow, because how many Alexander Morrison and Margaret Peacock's would there have been?! It's just frustrating I can't find proof.

Thanks everyone :)
Renfrewshire: MORRISON, LAUCHLAN, DUNLOP, TYRELL, HOLMES, COLQUHUON, PEACOCK, CRAIG, GIBSON, ADAM, GARRETT

Lanarkshire: MUIR/MOORE, URE, BEATON

Argyllshire: McGREGOR, MORRISON

Aberdeenshire: WILLIAMSON, HENDERSON, MOIR

Inverness-shire: FOX

Kincardineshire: REID, PATERSON, REITH, DAVIDSON

England: GLAISTER, GRAHAM, GURD

Ireland: TYRELL, RAMSAY, GURD

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 08:17 BST (UK) »
Good morning ;D,

I'm puzzled by your 1841 Census result for Thomas aged 4  :-\ This is the Freecen Transcription-
45 Broomland Street- 
  MORRISON   James   M   40   Brewer    Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Agness   F   40       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   James   M   15   Joiner Apprentice    Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Janet   F   12       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   William   M   10       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Mary Ann   F   6       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Margaret   F   6       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Thomas   M   4       Renfrewshire       
  MORRISON   Eliza   F   1       Renfrewshire       

There are no family relationships noted on the 1841 so although it is possible  the youngsters could all be the children of James Morrison snr , there is always the chance that they are nephews/nieces or indeed grandchildren.

Alexander Morrison age 78 is also at 45 Broomland St but is not listed on same Freecen page.

I have tried to locate the above family on the 1851 Census without much luck. The elusive Morrisons strike again ;D  Could be James snr and Agness had died.....or they all moved away .

Looby  :)

   
   
     

     

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 14:48 BST (UK) »
Maybe worth having a look at 9 Broomland St...Freecen 1841 census a six year old 'Thos McMorison' showing with someone listed as 'Henerica'.
Jen
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Alexander Morrison (possibly Paisley, Renfrewshire...)
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 14:58 BST (UK) »
Maybe worth having a look at 9 Broomland St...Freecen 1841 census a six year old 'Thos McMorison' showing with someone listed as 'Henerica'.
Jen

Henrica is an alternative for Euphemia if it helps  ???

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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